gfm7175 (02-17-2020), USFREEDOM911 (02-17-2020)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
gfm7175 (02-17-2020), USFREEDOM911 (02-17-2020)
and is it your understanding that Christianity teaches that anyone who gives away all that he has to the poor is guaranteed to go to heaven?......the key to that passage is that human perfection is unattainable......it is only through God that it is possible......
26 Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?”
27 Jesus replied, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.”
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
gfm7175 (02-17-2020), USFREEDOM911 (02-17-2020)
My, how things have changed, haven't they? Now American Xtians (many of them, not all) say "I got mine so screw the poor." Oddly, they say this at the same time they insist that it's not the government (i.e., the ppl) place to provide a social welfare safety network -- let the poor rely on charity.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Cypress (02-17-2020)
if Joan of Arc read the same Bible that I did then yes.......do you have a problem with people who read the Bible?.....God told me a lot in John chapter 3......are you familiar with it?......if not, here...
God has told me that if I believe in him I am not condemned.......are you prepared to contradict that?.....if so, back it up with your divine authority......16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
USFREEDOM911 (02-17-2020)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
This was not at all Jesus telling rich people to share everything they have with the poor. Like many people do, you are taking a single Bible verse out of context.
The full context is contained in Luke 18 verses 18-30. The story starts off with a ruler asking Jesus what he needs to do to gain eternal life (a question everyone should ask at some point in their lives, in my opinion). Then Jesus notes that the man knows the 10 commandments, and then the man proudly proclaims that he has kept them from his youth and up. Then comes the verse that you mention, the verse where Jesus points out the one thing that this man lacks. Here, Jesus tells the man to "go sell everything that you have and follow me" as a way to drive home the point to the man that the man values his earthly treasures more than he does heavenly treasures.
The main lesson here is not that rich people absolutely must share everything they have with the poor, but rather that we need to place God above our Earthly wealth, not letting our Earthly wealth get in the way of our relationship with God. Even more-so, we need to realize that we can't save ourselves.
Last edited by gfm7175; 02-17-2020 at 04:16 PM.
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