Evolution vs Creationism---Is there a God? Or is it all just random chance?

[Casual Leftist]

I.e., if you carry round Caesar's money, he can ask you for it. You seem to have forgotten about what Jews were supposed to believe.

They ask in the form of taxes. I assume the local rabbis or some authority figure collected taxes. But please tell me what the Jews were supposed to believe.

And the point is you do metaphorically carry around Caesars money today. Jesus would toss a US coin like a Roman one.

You think there was a God universally powerful - except for the Roman Empire? Come ON!

I don't understand where this is coming from.

[PostmodernProphet]

First stage abortions within the first 3 months aren't babies.

they are if the mother doesn't want to kill them...then you pretend they aren't......

if attachment is the final stage of conception and attachment doesn't happen, obviously conception is not complete.......that's why I said I would let you kill all the zygotes your heart desired.....of course, that only leaves you a three day window max......

[USFREEDOM911]

we've prevented the dingbat demmycunts from using American law to contradict science on that issue.....humans didn't cause global warming and humans could not have stopped it........

Over the past 2,000 years, the globe has seen:

The Roman Warm Period

The cooler Dark Ages

The Medieval Warm Period

The Little Ice Age

A gradual 300-year warming

Don't believe the hysteria.

The climate is changing.

It always has. It always will.

[Into the Night]

American law should not contradict science......

Works for me. Unfortunately, it sometimes does. Congress seems to think they can overturn the 1st law of thermodynamics, for example.

[Into the Night]

Like the Global warming of the Planet?

Not science. Define 'global warming'.

[Into the Night]

You can accuse me of making up numbers, but to say there is no real number is false. We can't say all women have been raped, but there's also a chance it's not 0 either. The percentage is real, we just can't perfectly detect it for various reasons. But women do talk about it. They can't all be liars.

Void argument fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Claiming a random number exists and using that as a proof YOUR random number is correct is a fallacy.

The question was meant to evoke an answer that could lead to a better understanding of what 'normal' possibly means. But it seems that was fruitless.

Evasion. Define 'normal'. Redefinition fallacy (definition<->example).

Well this has been my second interaction with you and I hope it's my last.

Hope in vain.

You've presented a gish gallop of fallacy claims

Denial of logic. Bulverism.

designed to avoid saying anything

I have simply listed your errors in logic. It is YOU that is not saying anything. A fallacy is not a valid argument.

while maximizing criticism.

It is YOU that criticizing. Inversion fallacy.

If this where a debate class

You are not debating. This last post of yours contains no arguments.

I'm sure you'd get a gold star.

Argument of the stick fallacy. I don't care if you are giving out gold stars.

But for a less formal forum it just shows you're very skilled at avoiding the conversation.

What conversation? You have presented no arguments in your post.

[Into the Night]

They ask in the form of taxes. I assume the local rabbis or some authority figure collected taxes. But please tell me what the Jews were supposed to believe.

And the point is you do metaphorically carry around Caesars money today. Jesus would toss a US coin like a Roman one.



I don't understand where this is coming from.

You don't get so speak for Jesus. You don't get to usurp the judgements of Jesus. You only get to speak for you. You only get to make your own judgements.

[Into the Night]

Over the past 2,000 years, the globe has seen:

The Roman Warm Period

The cooler Dark Ages

The Medieval Warm Period

The Little Ice Age

A gradual 300-year warming

Don't believe the hysteria.

The climate is changing.

It always has. It always will.

Climate has no temperature. It is subjective word describing prevalent conditions, not even necessarily weather. There are desert climates, marine climates, arctic climates, wet climates, cold climates (still no temperature!), tropical climates, etc. There is no global climate. Earth contains many climates.

'Change' implies a quantitative value. What value is changing? There are no quantitative values in a climate.

Define 'climate change'.

[USFREEDOM911]

Climate has no temperature. It is subjective word describing prevalent conditions, not even necessarily weather. There are desert climates, marine climates, arctic climates, wet climates, cold climates (still no temperature!), tropical climates, etc. There is no global climate. Earth contains many climates.

'Change' implies a quantitative value. What value is changing? There are no quantitative values in a climate.

Define 'climate change'.

My reference was to all the climates; because they all are changing, even as we speak.

[Mason Michaels]

Not science. Define 'global warming'.

You don't know what global warming means?

[Casual Leftist]

'Change' implies a quantitative value. What value is changing? There are no quantitative values in a climate.

Define 'climate change'.

The quantitative value is that the average temperature of all of earths climates, be they desert climates, marine climates, arctic climates, wet climates, cold climates or tropical climates, is increasing.

Or as NASA for Kids describes it: "This information tells us that Earth's climate is getting warmer." https://climatekids.nasa.gov/climate-change-evidence/

[Iolo/Penderyn]

They ask in the form of taxes. I assume the local rabbis or some authority figure collected taxes. But please tell me what the Jews were supposed to believe
And the point is you do metaphorically carry around Caesars money today. Jesus would toss a US coin like a Roman one..

No honest Jew believed in kow-towing to a pagan empire. They believed in their own country and their own religion, and a little later they rose up to re-establish it. You seem to think I support capitalist government. Why?

I don't understand where this is coming from.

If people believe in an all-powerful god, they don't believe petty Roman dictators are in a position to divide up the universe with him.

[PostmodernProphet]

And the point is you do metaphorically carry around Caesars money today. Jesus would toss a US coin like a Roman one.

this is why lib'ruls love taxes........they think ALL money belongs to Caesar and its wrong for people to keep any of it........

[gfm7175]

Like the Global warming of the Planet?

Can you show me the valid dataset that you used to arrive at this conclusion?

[Casual Leftist]

No honest Jew believed in kow-towing to a pagan empire. They believed in their own country and their own religion, and a little later they rose up to re-establish it. You seem to think I support capitalist government. Why?

Well they did have a few rebellions, but they kept losing. As for your support for capitalism I don't think I suggested that. I'm just mentioning the US gov and taxes, not its economic system.

If people believe in an all-powerful god, they don't believe petty Roman dictators are in a position to divide up the universe with him.

Jesus tossing the coin has nothing to do with God's power or the legitimacy of the Roman authority. IMO it suggests don't worry about money or other earthly things. When rome asks for its coin, or the US, give it to them.