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    If the bloody terrorist, Soleimani, had not been murdering Americans, no response by America.

    America will always respond to these fanatical barbarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    As you know, your logic sucks.

    And you like leaving murderers alone so they can murder more people lol?
    If you constantly invade other countries, as Hitler found, they will fight back, kid. Get Mommy to buy you a history book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    PS, if someone I like didn't quote you, these eyes never see a fucking thing you write, because I think you are evil or an idiot, or both.
    Time to start the apology tour for your terrorist friends, pende*o,

    Take a hike, pende*o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    If you constantly invade other countries, as Hitler found, they will fight back, kid. Get Mommy to buy you a history book!
    So, you’ve been banned from your pissy little country’s forums and come to America’s forums as a guest and lie about America, America hating pende*o.

    I don’t believe all the citizens of Wales are pricks like you, pende*o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    If you constantly invade other countries, as Hitler found, they will fight back, kid. Get Mommy to buy you a history book!
    I like to think Darth punctuates all his absurdities with a lol to indicate he is coy and aware, rather though, I think he may just simply be a loony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Or use to murder more Americans and Iranian protestors?
    That would appease the mullahs and go a long way to avoid conflict. Good idea.

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    Originally Posted by Darth Omar
    As you know, your logic sucks.

    And you like leaving murderers alone so they can murder more people lol?



    No. It goes like this: Killing Soleimani is on the plus side of the ledger card, as well as any diminution in further deaths he alone would cause,
    and all the dead on that plane, and the additional dead Iran decides to create because Trump killed him are on the minus side.

    Reality is your friend. Stop hiding from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    That would appease the mullahs and go a long way to avoid conflict. Good idea.
    We could provide them with billions to buy weapons to murder Americans and their own people.

    Oh, wait, Obama and Kerry already did that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    We could provide them with billions to buy weapons to murder Americans and their own people.

    Oh, wait, Obama and Kerry already did that.
    Biden can use that in a campaign ad. Would be very effective for him. It would energize his base of hollywierds,, trannies, and coastal Californians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Originally Posted by Darth Omar
    As you know, your logic sucks.

    And you like leaving murderers alone so they can murder more people lol?



    No. It goes like this: Killing Soleimani is on the plus side of the ledger card, as well as any diminution in further deaths he alone would cause,
    and all the dead on that plane, and the additional dead Iran decides to create because Trump killed him are on the minus side.

    Reality is your friend. Stop hiding from her.
    Umm..no lol.

    You can’t cherry pick cause and effect. If you go with cause and effect it’s cause and effect all the way. Soleimani would be culpable for any future deaths he ‘effectively caused’. You lose no matter which way you look at it. There were 167 unfortunate deaths tied DIRECTLY to the Iranians incompetence. Soleimani killed 600 Americans and who knows how many middle easterners—so it’s already a net win.

    It’s an absurd argument. It’s just another way to blame Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Umm..no lol.

    You can’t cherry pick cause and effect. If you go with cause and effect it’s cause and effect all the way. Soleimani would be culpable for any future deaths he ‘effectively caused’. You lose no matter which way you look at it. There were 167 unfortunate deaths tied DIRECTLY to the Iranians incompetence. Soleimani killed 600 Americans and who knows how many middle easterners—so it’s already a net win.

    It’s an absurd argument. It’s just another way to blame Trump.
    Governments that murder members of other governments commit war crimes unless they are officially at war. That makes Trump a war criminal. That Soleimani was would take a bit of proving, I think, though it might well be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Governments that murder members of other governments commit war crimes unless they are officiallyat war. That makes Trump a war criminal. That Soleimani was would take a bit of proving, I think, though it might well be done.
    As we know, the US is incapable of being held accountable for any war crimes its leaders commit. There is a carve out for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    No, it kind of is. Iran was shooting off missiles in retaliation but it seems they flubbed it up if what they said was true. I might be spitballing here but maybe their mess up was the reason they seemed eager to leave it with what they did.
    Jade the Iranians fired surface to surface ballistic missiles in retaliation. The airliner was brought down with a SAM (surface to air missile) designed to hit aircraft. You are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Ok lol.

    So, out of fear of intended/unintended consequences, Trump—like his predecessors, does nothing with Soleimani. Who gets the blame for Trump’s negligence when Soleimani kills a few more hundreds or thousands in the future?
    Trump as well. for the left- "blame Trump" is baked in. Which is why we pay no attention to the naysayers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.
    No; it's stupid and ignorant to blame Trump.
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