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    Default It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

    It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

    Kathleen Parker
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    Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST

    "It may be tempting to blame President Trump for the downed passenger jet in Iran this week, but a linear conclusion it is not.

    At the least, such a judgment is premature and rigged with the politics of emotion.

    Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who sits on both the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, essentially said the president was at fault for the downing of the plane, while media reports from Canada, which lost at least 63 countrymen in the disaster, featured mourners pointing fingers at the United States.

    Officials from the United States, Britain and Canada have all said that intelligence reports strongly suggest that the airliner was hit by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. Iran called that assessment a “big lie,” instead blaming technical issues.

    During an interview on Thursday on CNN, Speier insisted that the disaster was “collateral damage” from Trump’s “provocative” actions toward Iran. When pressed during another CNN interview on Friday, she said that, while she wasn’t placing blame on Trump specifically for Iran’s apparent shoot-down of the plane, “it all emanates from the killing of [Maj. Gen Qasem] Soleimani” ordered by Trump. Speier added that, in the wake of the airstrike that targeted the Quds Force commander, Iran is “providing vengeance . . . to the United States,” which, though useful to the narrative dispensary, isn’t supported by logic in the case of the airliner. Never mind the worrisome possibility that Trump’s aphasia-like means of expression may be a contagious tic.

    Were Trump a more trustworthy president — and his foreign policy more than just a “series of impulses,” as my colleague Fareed Zakaria so aptly put it recently — then people might be more inclined to wait out an investigation. In times of shock and grief, we humans quickly seek to assign blame, if only in part to designate a target for the anger that follows.

    But, even considering Trump’s dubious foreign policy record and the Soleimani assassination, laying even partial blame on the U.S. president for a crime (or accident) that Iran apparently committed doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of fairness or logic.

    Consider: Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 took off from Tehran with 82 Iranians on board. By what strain of logic would killing so many of one’s own citizens hurt another nation? No doubt, Iran would love to “provide vengeance,” but Iranian officials announced early on that they would seek reprisal against the United States by striking military targets. Thus, this week, just hours before the airliner exploded midair, Iran fired more than a dozen short-range ballistic missiles at Iraqi military bases that housed U.S. troops."
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    Only the Democrat Socialist apologists for a terrorist were blaming President Trump.

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    No, it kind of is. Iran was shooting off missiles in retaliation but it seems they flubbed it up if what they said was true. I might be spitballing here but maybe their mess up was the reason they seemed eager to leave it with what they did.

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    Oh. look, the JPP sloths have awakened in time to continue their apology tour to support terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Oh. look, the JPP sloths have awakened in time to continue their apology tour to support terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism.
    Unreal... patriotzeros....and not surprising...

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    The blame lies clearly at the door of US aggression- no matter who was responsible for the disaster.

    Trump lit the match.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The blame lies clearly at the door of US aggression- no matter who was responsible for the disaster.

    Trump lit the match.
    Now, you know that's not true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Now, you know that's not true....
    Surely, if you murder a national hero, you tend to make people in charge of missiles nervous? The expect you to start murdering everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Surely, if you murder a national hero, you tend to make people in charge of missiles nervous? The expect you to start murdering everyone.
    He wasn't a national hero, America hating POS.

    He was a bloody terrorist who caused the murders of more than 600 Americans.

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    "Let’s not cry for Soleimani. Let’s weep instead for the 370,000 people who have been killed in Syria’s bloody, ongoing civil war."

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    "Ukraine and Canada are demanding accountability for Iran after it admitted to shooting down a Ukrainian jet shortly after it took off from Tehran this week, killing all 176 people on board.

    After first blaming the crash on technical issues, Iran said early Saturday that it shot down the plane headed for Kyiv due to a "human error." Among the victims of the crash were 11 Ukrainians and 57 Canadians.

    “Ukraine insists on a full admission of guilt,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tweeted Saturday. “We expect Iran to bring those responsible to justice, return the bodies, pay compensation and issue an official apology. The investigation must be full, open & continue without delays or obstacles.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    It’s easy to blame Trump. But the Iran plane disaster isn’t his fault.

    Kathleen Parker
    Columnist
    Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST

    "It may be tempting to blame President Trump for the downed passenger jet in Iran this week, but a linear conclusion it is not.

    At the least, such a judgment is premature and rigged with the politics of emotion.

    Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who sits on both the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, essentially said the president was at fault for the downing of the plane, while media reports from Canada, which lost at least 63 countrymen in the disaster, featured mourners pointing fingers at the United States.

    Officials from the United States, Britain and Canada have all said that intelligence reports strongly suggest that the airliner was hit by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. Iran called that assessment a “big lie,” instead blaming technical issues.

    During an interview on Thursday on CNN, Speier insisted that the disaster was “collateral damage” from Trump’s “provocative” actions toward Iran. When pressed during another CNN interview on Friday, she said that, while she wasn’t placing blame on Trump specifically for Iran’s apparent shoot-down of the plane, “it all emanates from the killing of [Maj. Gen Qasem] Soleimani” ordered by Trump. Speier added that, in the wake of the airstrike that targeted the Quds Force commander, Iran is “providing vengeance . . . to the United States,” which, though useful to the narrative dispensary, isn’t supported by logic in the case of the airliner. Never mind the worrisome possibility that Trump’s aphasia-like means of expression may be a contagious tic.

    Were Trump a more trustworthy president — and his foreign policy more than just a “series of impulses,” as my colleague Fareed Zakaria so aptly put it recently — then people might be more inclined to wait out an investigation. In times of shock and grief, we humans quickly seek to assign blame, if only in part to designate a target for the anger that follows.

    But, even considering Trump’s dubious foreign policy record and the Soleimani assassination, laying even partial blame on the U.S. president for a crime (or accident) that Iran apparently committed doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of fairness or logic.

    Consider: Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752 took off from Tehran with 82 Iranians on board. By what strain of logic would killing so many of one’s own citizens hurt another nation? No doubt, Iran would love to “provide vengeance,” but Iranian officials announced early on that they would seek reprisal against the United States by striking military targets. Thus, this week, just hours before the airliner exploded midair, Iran fired more than a dozen short-range ballistic missiles at Iraqi military bases that housed U.S. troops."
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    Only the Democrat Socialist apologists for a terrorist were blaming President Trump.
    Trump is to blame for the downing of the Ukrainian airliner and all other deaths to follow in that region, because he had the Iranian general assassinated?!! There's always consequences for acts of stupidity?!! The blood is on Trump's tiny hands too?!!


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    SMH @ willful stupidity

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    Oh. look, the JPP sloths continue their apology tour to support terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism.

    Not good optics for Nov.

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    Trump is to blame for the crisis which caused the passenger liner disaster - and the crisis is far from over.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The blame lies clearly at the door of US aggression- no matter who was responsible for the disaster.

    Trump lit the match.
    Match was lit with the attack on our Embassy

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