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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I think it is pretty much established that there are Russian troops in the Donbass. They may have torn off their military emblems, but they are clearly still Russian troops. Putin does not try to hard to hide his involvement.

    ^ that was the "little green men" that annexed Crimea ( and they did not "tear off " their insignias.

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    unlike teabillies, Iranians have some balls, the Ayatollah's in deep shit now...............long live the Revolution!


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    From Anatta's link
    Head of the DPR Alexander Zakharchenko claimed in August 2014 that there are around 3,000 to 4,000 Russian volunteers fighting for the militia, which includes current and many retired Russian Army servicemen.
    So even the head of the Donbass Separatists admits there are CURRENT Russian troops in the Donbass. He claims they "volunteered"... I sort of believe that, but I think they were asked by Putin to volunteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    that was the "little green men" that annexed Crimea ( and they did not "tear off " their insignias.
    You show a picture of soldiers in Russian uniforms, but without any emblems on their uniform. I wonder how thousands of Russian soldiers could have "accidentally" lost their emblems.

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    There are no Russian troops, no command structure, no Putin
    So the "volunteers" deserted the Russian Army, removing their military emblems, and Putin is not upset? You would think that having thousands of deserters would bother Putin... Unless they are not deserters. What if they were ordered by Putin to pretend to desert. What if they are still part of the Russian military.

    It does seem odd that these groups of Russian soldiers just repeatedly desert and support Putin's operations.

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    Anatta, do you believe Russian troops invaded the Crimean, or do you believe Putin's story about individual Russian "volunteering" with no leadership to invade the Crimean?

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    Britain's ambassador to Iran is ARRESTED for 'inciting' protesters in Tehran during clashes with riot police as they chant 'Death to liars' and demand the Ayatollah RESIGNS after country admits shooting down jet, killing 176 people

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ran-clash.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    I bet you are 100% wrong, anyone that follows the ME knows about Soleimani-
    FFS he took selfies all over Syria!
    I'll bet good money Mr. Badguy never had any intention of paying up on his lost bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    They had no fucking choice arsehole, no airlane would ever want to fly there again for fear of the same thing happening.
    Flap your ears and fly over there yourself, Sais. Plenty of room in your big fat arse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    From Anatta's link


    So even the head of the Donbass Separatists admits there are CURRENT Russian troops in the Donbass. He claims they "volunteered"... I sort of believe that, but I think they were asked by Putin to volunteer.
    it's possible,but WIKI isn't a solid source -but when I say "Russian troops" it's OBVIOUS I mean actual Russian troops
    with a Russian command.
    That does not exist in Donbass - surly you understand this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I'll bet good money Mr. Badguy never had any intention of paying up on his lost bet.
    Americans are woefully ignorant of the world,and tend to see things without complexity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Anatta, do you believe Russian troops invaded the Crimean, or do you believe Putin's story about individual Russian "volunteering" with no leadership to invade the Crimean?
    you need to supply links.
    Familiarize yourself with "Little green men",and you'll find out . Putin calls them "self-defence groups"

    They are obviously Russian troops. the reason they are unmarked was to give them time to annex Crimea
    ( done in a rapid manner) while Kyiv and the west were trying to confirm they identity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    So the "volunteers" deserted the Russian Army, removing their military emblems, and Putin is not upset? You would think that having thousands of deserters would bother Putin... Unless they are not deserters. What if they were ordered by Putin to pretend to desert. What if they are still part of the Russian military.

    It does seem odd that these groups of Russian soldiers just repeatedly desert and support Putin's operations.
    the separatists are not "deserters" -,Donbass is a largely Russian enclave -there really ARE a lot of "self defense groups" ( look at the organizational chart again)
    You are confusing locals or retired/no longer active Russian troops -but nothing to do with Putins army

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Britain's ambassador to Iran is ARRESTED for 'inciting' protesters in Tehran during clashes with riot police as they chant 'Death to liars' and demand the Ayatollah RESIGNS after country admits shooting down jet, killing 176 people

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ran-clash.html
    University protests, that's not going to do it

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