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    The latest Trump fiasco is coming out as expected. Trump lied about Soleimani presenting an immediate threat. After he killed him, he talked about how he was a terrorist. He was highly rated official in the Irani government and Trump killed him and his entourage. And then the morphing began. The accomplishment? Negligible. They had a replacement in hours.
    Trump said he was an immediate danger. That did not sell as well as he wanted so he made up a lie about 4 embassies targeted. Sunday his spokesman did not say it. They , unlike Trump, wanted to stay close to the truth. Now it comes out that they had been tracking him for 7 months. He was killed just before the impeachment trial. That is not coincidental. Trump killed some people for his advantage. He does everything to benefit himself and then lies like hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Why do I keep suspecting Frank that you liked Donald when he hung out with Hillary & Bill and called himself a “Democrat?” And now since he’s a conservative Republican, you’re suffering from CNN, MSNBC propaganda?
    I have no idea of why you suspected that.

    I never realized that Trump hung out with Hillary & Bill...and I only found out that he once called himself a Democrat...after he announced for office.

    But if that kind of thinking is necessary for you to feel good...by all means, go for it.



    As politicians go Frank, I see Trump as “fresh air.”
    As politicians go, I see him as the most ignorant, least interested, least willing to be advised, classless boor ever to attain the presidency.

    As a human being, I see him as a disgusting blob wasting perfectly usable oxygen.


    I forgive you brother Frank for your lack of reasonable and truthful argument related to the success of our great President. I’ll consider your age as the issue.
    If that kind of thing makes your journey through life more enjoyable...please do it with my "blessings."

    It was and still is the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to endure in my life Frank. We were friends, partners and lovers for 60 years. There’s a gigantic vacuum in my life only God will heal.
    I can only imagine the pain...and I truly feel for you, Robo.

    What you are going through is one of those things that even time cannot heal...and for people like you (and a dear friend of mine who recently went through it)...I doubt you really want it healed. The hurt is an important part of the loving memory.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    The OP:


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I feel it in my heart.

    He is a very bad man.

    He is hurting America and the world.

    We need to rise up and triumph over Trump*.

    There is a reason 'Trump' and 'Trouble' sound similar.
    What crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is acting exactly as a guilty man does in every incident.
    What does a 'guilty man' act like? Please be specific.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    An innocent man would open up and prove innocence.
    No one needs to prove innocence. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump establishes a long process that hides everything even long in the past.
    So do you. Does that you a criminal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lies for sport.
    So do you. Does that make you a criminal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump has the most closed administration in history.
    Not even close.
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    No Presidential press conferences.
    Wrong. He still holds them. You must be hallucinating again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He ended the daily presser. He has only his close sycophants in every discussion.
    Wrong again!
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    Trump has forbidden the IRS from doing his and Pences taxes.
    The IRS does not do taxes for anyone in government, not even the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The IRS had had that job for generations.
    Never did. The IRS does not do taxes for anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Can you figure out why he did that?
    Because the IRS does not do taxes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He had fake physicals done by controlled or phony doctors.
    No. They are real doctors.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is changed everything to build a big beautiful wall around him and what he does.
    You are confusing the wall along the Mexico border.
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    If Trump is not a crook, he is playing one on TV perfectly.
    TV is not reality, dude. Shut off the tube and enjoy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    Let me be perfectly honest in responding to this. This crosses the line. Make another crack like that and we're done.

    If a stranger had said this there would have been no warning.
    Empty threat. Argument of the stick fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Nordberg,



    Well said.

    Besides all the facts of the case, and there is so much it can quickly become more than a sound byte (thus making such higher consideration off limits to shallow minds,) my intuition tells me Trump is a very bad man.
    A sound bite. Please be specific on why you consider Trump to be a 'bad man'. Oh...define 'bad man'.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He is a conniving conman.
    What's the con?
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    Big warning sign completely ignored by his fans: He called the media the enemy of the people.
    They are.
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    Hello. If Obama had called Fox News that, half the nation would have been screaming foul.
    Nothing special about Fox News.
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    He is not sincere. He talks like a used car salesman.
    Bigotry. There are actually some pretty nice used car salesmen.
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    He is a show man.
    That he is. So?
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    He has this Elvis-like cult following and they don't really know why they favor him
    I can specifically list why I favor him (I'll keep it to a few):

    * He does what he says.
    * He has improved the economy.
    * He has finally done something about the illegal immigration problem from Mexico.
    * He has finally done something about China and their unfair trade practices.
    * He supports the 2nd amendment (with one stupid exception).
    * He is a patriot.
    * He understands and supports the American people that work for a living.
    * He understands business.
    * He is a capitalist.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    (many do not really like him,)
    You do not get to speak for everybody else. You only get to speak for you.
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    but they do favor him because they can't resist.
    You don't get to speak for anyone else but you.
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    They like to have a smooth-talker lie to them.
    Trump??? A smoother talker??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Weren't you the idiots complaining about the rough speech of Trump?????
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    Not me. My inner being rejects this kind of con.
    What con?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    All available evidence demonstrates that he's lived his entire adult life as a criminal, chucklefuck, along with lifelong mob associations.

    Please be less stupid.
    What crime? Which mob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    What does a 'guilty man' act like? Please be specific.

    No one needs to prove innocence. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

    So do you. Does that you a criminal?

    So do you. Does that make you a criminal?

    Not even close.

    Wrong. He still holds them. You must be hallucinating again.

    Wrong again!

    The IRS does not do taxes for anyone in government, not even the President.

    Never did. The IRS does not do taxes for anyone.

    Because the IRS does not do taxes?

    No. They are real doctors.

    You are confusing the wall along the Mexico border.

    TV is not reality, dude. Shut off the tube and enjoy life.
    He acts as a guilty man would.
    I would go further but you are being deliberately obdurate.

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    Trump is guilty. Refusing to cooperate with Congress, blocking testimony, withholding evidence. It's a cover-up. Republicans are complicit but they are all controlled by fear of being tweet-slapped. Trump's mouth is more powerful than his brain. His ability to make decisions is only exceeded by his inability to make the right ones. Iran is a diversion, a shameless popularity grab. Plastic hero with the golden escalator.

    The house of cards is built on a pack of lies.

    November is going to come in like a big wind.
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    Trump is the first to stonewall and not only refuse to answer subpoenas but forbid anyone involved to respond to them either. He refused to provide a scrap of his paperwork and refused to allow those who testified to have access to their own records. This is a ham-handed pathetic coverup of crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He acts as a guilty man would.
    I would go further but you are being deliberately obdurate.
    Define how a 'guilty man acts'. Inversion fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump is guilty.
    Of what?
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    Refusing to cooperate with Congress,
    He doesn't have to. That is not a crime.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    blocking testimony,
    He doesn't have to. That is not a crime.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    withholding evidence.
    He doesn't have to provide evidence against himself. That is not a crime.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It's a cover-up.
    Of what?
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    Republicans are complicit but they are all controlled by fear of being tweet-slapped.
    Twitter has no power over me.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump's mouth is more powerful than his brain.
    YALIF.
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    His ability to make decisions is only exceeded by his inability to make the right ones.
    YALIF
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    Iran is a diversion,
    No, Iran is a nation, controlled by some nasty people.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    a shameless popularity grab.
    Iran didn't get Trump elected.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Plastic hero with the golden escalator.
    YALIF
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    The house of cards is built on a pack of lies.
    YALIF. Fallacy fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    November is going to come in like a big wind.
    Hope you have your post-election therapist lined up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is the first to stonewall
    Do you know where the word 'stonewall' comes from??? You are now locked in paradox. Which is it, dude?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    and not only refuse to answer subpoenas
    The House does not have power of subpoena. It must go to a court for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    but forbid anyone involved to respond to them either.
    It is perfectly legal for him to do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He refused to provide a scrap of his paperwork
    He doesn't have to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    and refused to allow those who testified to have access to their own records.
    He doesn't have their own records.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    This is a ham-handed pathetic coverup of crimes.
    What crime?

    Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    When a war is coming and you cannot stop it, you vote for the war. You face the charge of not backing our boys. As US Grant said, if you vote against a war that is coming you do so at the cost of your career. Only a tiny few politicians were in a safe enough district to vote against it. She voted for it. She said it was about Sadaam.
    She has worked for the people over corporations and the wealthy for most of her career. Her first acts out of college were helping children. In The Whitehouse, she worked on universal healthcare.
    Think Trump would do any of that? She is also smart and articulate. She speaks like an intelligent adult.
    She was a Senator, so district didn't apply. Now, you could argue that NY might have punished her for not voting for it, but New Yorkers were more adamant about invading Afghanistan than Iraq. In the months leading up to the Iraq War, engaging in a second conflict while we were already in Afghanistan was not exactly popular -- particularly in the Northeast. You can't really claim this was about saving her office. If she was a Senator in a red or swing state, I could see it, but that clearly wasn't the case.

    And no, she's been a corporatist just like most politicians.

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