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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Any type of multiracialism causes a lowering of social trust and national identity. It also causes non-racial issues to become racial, although this is usually more common when the minorities are black and brown.

    The problem of Muslim terrorism has more to do with Israel and Zionism than race or religion. As for assimilation, white Muslims assimilate into white societies fine.
    Plenty of Islamic terrorism is unrelated to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Most Sunni terrorism is connected to Wahhabism and Qutbism. Qutbism does criticize Zionism, but it was created as reaction to European influence overall, much of which was unrelated to Israel. Shiite terrorism has more of a connection to the Israel-Palestine conflict.

    It is true that many White Muslims integrate well, but plenty of white converts do not. We've seen more than a few white British convert to Islam and become extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Plenty of Islamic terrorism is unrelated to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Most Sunni terrorism is connected to Wahhabism and Qutbism. Qutbism does criticize Zionism, but it was created as reaction to European influence overall, much of which was unrelated to Israel. Shiite terrorism has more of a connection to the Israel-Palestine conflict.
    That kind of Islamic terrorism does exist, but it's far less common than the kind that's fighting against Jewish oppression. Even the Qutbists say that European influence is being pushed on them by Jews. Which isn't true, but I can see how they were able to fall for that belief, since Jews are oppressing so many Muslims.

    It is true that many White Muslims integrate well, but plenty of white converts do not. We've seen more than a few white British convert to Islam and become extremists.
    That's because in those cases, the white converts are drawn in by groups like ISIS. So it's not so much that they convert to Islam and then become terrorists, it's rather that they become terrorists with Islam just kinda being part of the deal.

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    Hello StoneByStone,

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Multiracialism is a major cause for the current problems in America.
    No it isn't. Racism is.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    You could also say why not just stop thinking about economic inequality and live your life? Well, because economic inequality is a major problem in America.
    Agreed. Serious problem.

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    So why are most countries racially homogeneous? Why does America need to force multiracialism if it's so natural?
    America never was mono-racial and never will be. We all need to accept that and accept others who are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    America never was mono-racial and never will be. We all need to accept that and accept others who are different.
    Sure, but America used to be a white ethnostate in that it had laws and policies in place to keep the population as white as possible. This didn't change until the sixties and the government had to lie in order to change that. We also had freedom of association so that we could have white neighborhoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That kind of Islamic terrorism does exist, but it's far less common than the kind that's fighting against Jewish oppression. Even the Qutbists say that European influence is being pushed on them by Jews. Which isn't true, but I can see how they were able to fall for that belief, since Jews are oppressing so many Muslims.
    Palestine is complicated. Yes, some of the mess can be blamed on Israel, but the other side of this is that Hezbollah manipulates the extremists there. It's not as simple as suggesting that the Jews are oppressing them.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's because in those cases, the white converts are drawn in by groups like ISIS. So it's not so much that they convert to Islam and then become terrorists, it's rather that they become terrorists with Islam just kinda being part of the deal.
    Some of them are, but many are just converted by regular Imams. There are plenty of mosques in the West that preach Wahhabism. Now, you could say that some of these converts end up meeting terror cell members in these mosques, but the beliefs they converted to are very much spread through just clergy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Palestine is complicated. Yes, some of the mess can be blamed on Israel, but the other side of this is that Hezbollah manipulates the extremists there. It's not as simple as suggesting that the Jews are oppressing them.
    Hezbollah is taking advantage of the situation. If the occupation ended, then the Palestinians wouldn't need to rely on groups like Hezbollah and Hamas for survival. So yeah, it's a complicated situation, but it could rather easily be ended if Israel wanted peace.



    Some of them are, but many are just converted by regular Imams. There are plenty of mosques in the West that preach Wahhabism. Now, you could say that some of these converts end up meeting terror cell members in these mosques, but the beliefs they converted to are very much spread through just clergy.
    That's what I mean by groups like ISIS. Westerners who end up becoming terrorists usually join extremists groups in the first place like the ones that preach Wahhabism. So it's more about them wanting to be a part of an extremist group than Islam.
    They can be compared to the many right-wing Christian extremists in the West. These people are generally drawn in by the extremism with Christianity just being part of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Palestine is complicated. Yes, some of the mess can be blamed on Israel, but the other side of this is that Hezbollah manipulates the extremists there. It's not as simple as suggesting that the Jews are oppressing them.
    Some of them are, but many are just converted by regular Imams. There are plenty of mosques in the West that preach Wahhabism. Now, you could say that some of these converts end up meeting terror cell members in these mosques, but the beliefs they converted to are very much spread through just clergy.
    Why Palestinians attacking Jews in Israel is not considered any different form Christians killing Jews & claiming forgiveness as Nazis of the Holocaust exterminating 6,000,000 + without being forgiven once as if they really expected a reincarnation.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    It’s no coincidence that our politics and our mental health have declined so rapidly, at the same time.

    Everyone has his or her own definition of a political crisis. Mine is when our collective mental health starts having a profound effect on our politics — and vice versa.

    It cannot be a simple coincidence that the two have declined in tandem. The American Psychiatric Association reported that from 2016 to 2017, the proportion of adults who described themselves as more anxious than the previous year was 36 percent. In 2017, more than 17 million American adults had at least one major depressive episode, as did three million adolescents ages 12 to 17. Forty million adults now suffer from an anxiety disorder — nearly 20 percent of the adult population. (These are the known cases of depression and anxiety. The actual numbers must be dumbfounding.)

    The really sorrowful reports concern suicide. Among all Americans, the suicide rate increased by 33 percent between 1999 and 2017.

    All of this mental carnage is occurring at a time when decades of social and political division have set against each other black and white, men and women, old and young. Beyond bitter social antagonisms, the country is racked by mass shootings, the mind-bending perils of the internet, revelations of widespread sexual predation, the worsening effects of climate change, virulent competition, the specter of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, grinding student debt and crises in housing, health care and higher education. The frightening environment helps cause depression, depression causes catastrophic thinking, and catastrophic thinking makes the environment seem even more terrifying than it is.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/o...ica-trump.html




    I'm NOT depressed, Kenny. I'm elated that we have such a wonderful president who has done SO much for our country and possesses one thing(s) Barry the Fairy did NOT have, BALLS. You're welcome, as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven VanderMolen View Post
    I'm NOT depressed, Kenny. I'm elated that we have such a wonderful president who has done SO much for our country and possesses one thing(s) Barry the Fairy did NOT have, BALLS. You're welcome, as always.
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    I'm only depressed to know that 48% of the people voted for Hillary- and only 45% voted for Donald Trump- but yet Donald Trump is the one in the White House.

    That's fucking depressing! Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    The only people "depressed" in this country are Democrats and liberals. They have been since 2016. No one of consequence cares.
    Perhaps you should care!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Hezbollah is taking advantage of the situation. If the occupation ended, then the Palestinians wouldn't need to rely on groups like Hezbollah and Hamas for survival. So yeah, it's a complicated situation, but it could rather easily be ended if Israel wanted peace.
    And if Iran didn't want Israel's destruction....


    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's what I mean by groups like ISIS. Westerners who end up becoming terrorists usually join extremists groups in the first place like the ones that preach Wahhabism. So it's more about them wanting to be a part of an extremist group than Islam.
    They can be compared to the many right-wing Christian extremists in the West. These people are generally drawn in by the extremism with Christianity just being part of the deal.
    The difference is that Wahhabism is a lot more mainstream in Islam than Eric Rudolph type Christianity is among Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Perhaps you should care!
    Not at all. The extent of my "caring" is if I can help their suffering. Through suicide. Need some help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    And if Iran didn't want Israel's destruction....
    Iran doesn't want Israel destroyed. Iran wants Israel to stop starting wars all over the Middle East in order to control the region.
    But that aside, if Israel was to end the war crimes against Palestine and pay reparations, the Palestinians wouldn't need to rely on terrorists.



    The difference is that Wahhabism is a lot more mainstream in Islam than Eric Rudolph type Christianity is among Christians.
    Sure, because Muslims are a lot more persecuted than Christians. It's easy to sell Wahhabism to Muslims when they see America and Israel constantly attacking Muslim countries. The Islamic world was actually pretty progressive at one point and probably would still be if it wasn't for America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Iran doesn't want Israel destroyed. Iran wants Israel to stop starting wars all over the Middle East in order to control the region.
    But that aside, if Israel was to end the war crimes against Palestine and pay reparations, the Palestinians wouldn't need to rely on terrorists.
    Yeah, not gonna happen. There's no evidence to suggest that reparations would result in the end of Islamic extremism against Israel.



    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Sure, because Muslims are a lot more persecuted than Christians. It's easy to sell Wahhabism to Muslims when they see America and Israel constantly attacking Muslim countries. The Islamic world was actually pretty progressive at one point and probably would still be if it wasn't for America.
    Some Islamic nations had been moving towards Westernization, but the oil rich Gulf States never really fit that. Most Wahhabism originated in said states. Basically, some of the oil money gained by Saudi Arabia and other states of the area is used to spread Wahhabism throughout the world.

    It's not Israel that is the problem. The Gulf States are.

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