Why Is America So Depressed?

[StoneByStone]

you are one massive racist

Bringing in immigrants from the third world lowers wages. Don't blame me, blame economics.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

But we're talking about private property here. Why shouldn't I get to decide who is allowed on my property?

Because we as a nation have collectively decided it is wrong and we have made laws against it, as most nations have. You may purchase a property, and no one can tell you that you cannot because of your race. You may own the property, but when you offer a service to the public, such as a rental, it must be made available to all races. It cannot be conditional on the race of the public being served. And if you are selling a property, you have no right to decide which race may purchase it. Your rights do not extend to the point of controlling which race may purchase something offered for sale. That is the point at which your rights end and theirs begin.

The proof is both history and current events. Whenever a society attempts multiracialism, social trust drops, depression increases, and people turn to Fascism. This is happening in America and all over Europe.

No, that is only opinion. Some may act with selfish hatred, but that does not typify the masses, nor the position of the State. You refer to outliers.

I'm fine with Blacks being citizens. All I want for America is to end non-white immigration and allow freedom of association. I'd even vote for a black president if they wanted to make that happen.

You should abandon such narrow and unpopular views. People are people no matter what the skin color. By mere chance, any of us could have been born into any race or any place on Earth. We must not hold that against others, but revel in the variety. Diversity is strength and it is beauty. The world would be dull if everybody looked the same. Diversity is an asset. The more we appreciate variety, the better off we are.

[Earl]

Hello StoneByStone,



Because we as a nation have collectively decided it is wrong and we have made laws against it, as most nations have. You may purchase a property, and no one can tell you that you cannot because of your race. You may own the property, but when you offer a service to the public, such as a rental, it must be made available to all races. It cannot be conditional on the race of the public being served. And if you are selling a property, you have no right to decide which race may purchase it. Your rights do not extend to the point of controlling which race may purchase something offered for sale. That is the point at which your rights end and theirs begin.



No, that is only opinion. Some may act with selfish hatred, but that does not typify the masses, nor the position of the State. You refer to outliers.



You should abandon such narrow and unpopular views. People are people no matter what the skin color. By mere chance, any of us could have been born into any race or any place on Earth. We must not hold that against others, but revel in the variety. Diversity is strength and it is beauty. The world would be dull if everybody looked the same. Diversity is an asset. The more we appreciate variety, the better off we are.

You are a racist.

[StoneByStone]

Because we as a nation have collectively decided it is wrong and we have made laws against it, as most nations have. You may purchase a property, and no one can tell you that you cannot because of your race. You may own the property, but when you offer a service to the public, such as a rental, it must be made available to all races. It cannot be conditional on the race of the public being served. And if you are selling a property, you have no right to decide which race may purchase it. Your rights do not extend to the point of controlling which race may purchase something offered for sale. That is the point at which your rights end and theirs begin..

But if so few people want racial separation, then why do we need laws against freedom of association? Wouldn't the Self-Segregationists be a tiny minority?
And freedom of association isn't controlling which race may purchase something. It's simply saying I, as the property owner, will not let you on my property. You are still free to go to any other business-owner who wants to do business with you.

No, that is only opinion. Some may act with selfish hatred, but that does not typify the masses, nor the position of the State. You refer to outliers.

So how do you explain the move to Fascism in America and Europe? How do you explain the studies that show "diversity" makes people less happy?

You should abandon such narrow and unpopular views. People are people no matter what the skin color. By mere chance, any of us could have been born into any race or any place on Earth. We must not hold that against others, but revel in the variety. Diversity is strength and it is beauty. The world would be dull if everybody looked the same. Diversity is an asset. The more we appreciate variety, the better off we are.

I don't dislike people of other races. I just accept that countries work better when most people are the same race and ethnicity. I love that the world is diverse. I want to maintain that diversity by having an ethnostate for every ethnicity.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

But if so few people want racial separation,

Most people want the law to support racial equality.

then why do we need laws against freedom of association? Wouldn't the Self-Segregationists be a tiny minority?

The more we obliterate racial barriers the more comfortable people will feel about mixing. The higher we make the barriers the less comfortable people are with mixing. Most people want the law to reflect no barriers but they mostly choose to live with people like them, although that is not an absolute. Houston is quite mixed, for example.

And freedom of association isn't controlling which race may purchase something. It's simply saying I, as the property owner, will not let you on my property. You are still free to go to any other business-owner who wants to do business with you.

If you run a business that is open to the public you cannot discriminate like that.

So how do you explain the move to Fascism in America and Europe?

I don't. And I don't buy your explanation.

How do you explain the studies that show "diversity" makes people less happy?

I am not aware of any such studies.

I don't dislike people of other races. I just accept that countries work better when most people are the same race and ethnicity.

Most people disagree.

I love that the world is diverse. I want to maintain that diversity by having an ethnostate for every ethnicity.

That is a holdover from long ago when oceans were barriers. The world has moved past that, become homogenized. Racists are not well accepted in modern society. Many racists have changed their ways, changed their views, learned how to appreciate mixing, found the beauty of it. It's a more beautiful world with more variety...

[StoneByStone]

That is a holdover from long ago when oceans were barriers. The world has moved past that, become homogenized. Racists are not well accepted in modern society. Many racists have changed their ways, changed their views, learned how to appreciate mixing, found the beauty of it. It's a more beautiful world with more variety...

Europe and Asia weren't separated by an ocean. North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa weren't separated by an ocean. And the world hasn't moved past Nationalism because most countries are still ethnostates in practice. Sure, Japan doesn't call itself an ethnostate, but they have laws and policies that keep the country Japanese. This idea that multiracialism and multiethnicism are strengths is ONLY found in the Western countries and I'd argue that the current shift towards the Far Right is evidence that most Westerners disagree.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

Europe and Asia weren't separated by an ocean. North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa weren't separated by an ocean. And the world hasn't moved past Nationalism because most countries are still ethnostates in practice. Sure, Japan doesn't call itself an ethnostate, but they have laws and policies that keep the country Japanese. This idea that multiracialism and multiethnicism are strengths is ONLY found in the Western countries and I'd argue that the current shift towards the Far Right is evidence that most Westerners disagree.

Iran has many religions. India has many religions, many races. Israel has many religions. Syria has many religions. Egypt has many religions. China has many religions, races. Hong Kong has many religions many races.

Your argument is pure conjecture. Others look at exactly the same data and do not draw the same conclusion. Actually, yours is an outlier, uncommon.

[StoneByStone]

Iran has many religions. India has many religions, many races. Israel has many religions. Syria has many religions. Egypt has many religions. China has many religions, races. Hong Kong has many religions many races.

I never said anything about religion. Race and ethnicity are way more important than religion and actually shape religion.
India doesn't keep records on race, but nearly all of its immigrants are from neighboring countries, meaning pretty much everyone in India is South Asian. So no, they don't have many races.
According to Wikipedia, China and Hong Kong are both over 90% Chinese. So also not many races.

[Saudade]

I feel like there's so little that unites us as Americans anymore. Sports used to one of things but its far more political now (there's always been a certain element of politics in sports but not nearly to the extent of today). Are there any TV shows that we all like? Maybe I'm wrong on this but I feel like we've lost something here.

It used to be constitutionalism, but that's clearly dead among both sides.

[Saudade]

you are lying when you say people in America want to self segregate



why do you do that ?


what does that LIE gain you?

Yes and no. Some segregation does happen voluntarily. Look at things like white flight from urban areas.

Also, there are numerous Chinatowns across America. Several other minority cultures form enclaves in various cities as well.

[Micawber]

Because the rednecks voted in a criminal clown dumbshit maniac to be president.

[Saudade]

because your rights end where others rights begin idiot

Actually, self-segregation seems to be legal in most respects if you are a minority. It's rare for antidiscriminatory laws to be applied to a business that only hires black people, for example.

[Saudade]

some do

they are the minority


MOST AMERICANS ARE NOT RACISTS LIKE YOU

The American National Election Studies has found that ingroup bias actually tends to be lowest among whites and highest among blacks.

This is a good summary of the findings: https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...-white-saviors

[Saudade]

Well you can accept the reality of racial differences while also opposing Fascism and Trump's use of racism to gain support.

There are differences regarding race, but I don't think it is genetics that causes cultural differences. That has more to do with environmental factors.

[Flash]

Hello cawacko,


I don't believe it.

Please, can you show a link to credible source saying the population of California is dropping?

Every time I go there it is even more crowded than ever. (which is hard to believe - where do they fit them all?)

Cawacko didn't say the population was dropping. He said more people were leaving than moving to the state. There was still natural population growth which prevented an actual loss.

"California’s 2018 population growth was the slowest in state history, new demographic data show — underscoring shifting immigration patterns, declining birthrates and economic strains that are making it harder for some to afford living here.



The state added 186,807 residents last year, bringing the estimated total population to 39,927,315 as of Jan. 1, according to estimates released by the state Department of Finance on Wednesday. The overall growth rate slipped to 0.47% last year from 0.78% in 2017, the slowest since data collection started in 1900, department spokesman H.D. Palmer said."

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...501-story.html