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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Just a side note here, but self-segregation is normal within any society. It's a bit different from having the state decide to block immigration based solely on race.
    That's normal too. Most countries either take immigrants in very small numbers so that they remain a minority, or they only take immigrants of the same race, like India does. For most of American history, we did the same thing. If the non-white population was getting too big, we'd stop taking non-white immigrants for a while. We always favored white immigrants before the sixties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's normal too. Most countries either take immigrants in very small numbers so that they remain a minority, or they only take immigrants of the same race, like India does. For most of American history, we did the same thing. If the non-white population was getting too big, we'd stop taking non-white immigrants for a while. We always favored white immigrants before the sixties.
    I guess we should favor non white immigrants for a while to make up for that mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That wasn't just a word salad, it was a word explosion.
    I have to believe salty is either a crude malfunctioning bot or is psychotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I guess we should favor non white immigrants for a while to make up for that mistake.
    How was it a mistake? We're currently seeing multiracialism fail in big ways in both America and Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I have to believe salty is either a crude malfunctioning bot or is psychotic.
    If he's a bot, I'm no longer worried about robots taking over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's totally possible. If that is the case, then it shows that it's not about Islam.
    People who have less opportunities in life are far more likely to resort to illegal activities, including political or religious extremism.
    I would say it's partially Islam. To support extremism, you have to base it on an ideology of some sort. Certain facets of Islam lend themselves to extremism. Now, I'll admit that Christianity has those as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's normal too. Most countries either take immigrants in very small numbers so that they remain a minority, or they only take immigrants of the same race, like India does. For most of American history, we did the same thing. If the non-white population was getting too big, we'd stop taking non-white immigrants for a while. We always favored white immigrants before the sixties.
    That is true. Although things have changed a lot since 1965, when the Immigration Act was passed. Most people alive today either don't remember a time before then or barely remember a time before then. Culturally, we're quite different in terms of values, and this goes beyond just the repercussions of the act itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If he's a bot, I'm no longer worried about robots taking over.
    With Christianity "serve the Pope or die" crusades robots cross conditioned way beyond therapy jihad celebrations of forgiving themselves for killing Americans in order to profit just as Islam "death to the infidels" robots it's all been long over in survival of the fittest fascists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    That is true. Although things have changed a lot since 1965, when the Immigration Act was passed. Most people alive today either don't remember a time before then or barely remember a time before then. Culturally, we're quite different in terms of values, and this goes beyond just the repercussions of the act itself.
    But this shows that Ethnic Nationalism, not Globalism, is the norm. America is in the minority by having multiracialism, and even then, we got this way recently and it was after the government lied to us.
    Yes, things have changed a lot since then, but when it comes to race, our preferences haven't changed. All that's changed is how we go about self-segregation.
    Today we have White Guilt and the Civil Rights industry, so we can't openly say "I want my neighborhood to stay white" like in the fifties. Instead, we say that we want states' rights, that we don't want illegal immigration, and that Islam is incompatible with Western values.

    I don't agree with everything this YouTuber says, but this video does a very good job summing up how Nationalism works in America now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I would say it's partially Islam. To support extremism, you have to base it on an ideology of some sort. Certain facets of Islam lend themselves to extremism. Now, I'll admit that Christianity has those as well.
    That's why I'd say it's not really about the ideology, it's about doing something extremist and violent for personal or pragmatic reasons, then trying to justify it with any ideology you have. It's the reason why religious extremism is so rare in prosperous countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But this shows that Ethnic Nationalism, not Globalism, is the norm. America is in the minority by having multiracialism, and even then, we got this way recently and it was after the government lied to us.
    Yes, things have changed a lot since then, but when it comes to race, our preferences haven't changed. All that's changed is how we go about self-segregation.
    Today we have White Guilt and the Civil Rights industry, so we can't openly say "I want my neighborhood to stay white" like in the fifties. Instead, we say that we want states' rights, that we don't want illegal immigration, and that Islam is incompatible with Western values.

    I don't agree with everything this YouTuber says, but this video does a very good job summing up how Nationalism works in America now.


    I'm still trying to figure out how you're a racial separatist but you support the same globalists you dislike.

    We're not unique in "multiracialism", however. The West overall is supportive of this. That being said, the problem isn't allowing multiple races into a country. It's about cultural compatibility. Some cultures mesh better with Western values than others.

    There's nuance to this that I think you often overlook.

    In short, being selective about immigration isn't a bad thing, but it's not all or nothing. The left has a lot of people that believe any restrictions are bad, while the far right wants to stop all immigration. I prefer a happy medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's why I'd say it's not really about the ideology, it's about doing something extremist and violent for personal or pragmatic reasons, then trying to justify it with any ideology you have. It's the reason why religious extremism is so rare in prosperous countries.
    I can mostly agree with that, but the justification usually comes before the act. It typically requires a psychotic mental state to commit an atrocity and still feel that you are doing "the right thing."

    Religion isn't the only way down that path, but it's a common one. Many political ideologies function in the same way as religion by driving people toward violence while still feeling self-righteous in their actions. We've seen how militant progressivism leads to violence from Antifa, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out how you're a racial separatist but you support the same globalists you dislike.
    I don't support Globalists, but I do vote for the lesser evil, and right now every Democrat running is a lesser evil to Trump. Multiracialism is bad, but Fascism is worse.

    We're not unique in "multiracialism", however. The West overall is supportive of this. That being said, the problem isn't allowing multiple races into a country. It's about cultural compatibility. Some cultures mesh better with Western values than others.
    Unfortunately yes, most Western countries are in the Globalist minority with America. And what's happening in America is also happening in Europe. People are resorting to Fascism in order to stop being marginalized in their own countries by racial minorities. What happened in Hungary is especially scary. Viktor Orbán became dictator by promising to build a wall to keep out immigrants. I'm just happy Trump is too stupid to pull that off.

    Culture is a result of race, and even putting culture aside, multiracialism still causes a lowering of social trust and more fights over representation.

    In short, being selective about immigration isn't a bad thing, but it's not all or nothing. The left has a lot of people that believe any restrictions are bad, while the far right wants to stop all immigration. I prefer a happy medium.
    Well same here, I don't think we should have closed borders either. I don't even think we should completely ban minority immigration. I think we should go back to the policies we had before 1965. Right now, we need to ban non-white immigrants, but if we can get the white population back to at least 80%, we can take a few non-white immigrants again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I don't support Globalists, but I do vote for the lesser evil, and right now every Democrat running is a lesser evil to Trump. Multiracialism is bad, but Fascism is worse.
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't see any fascism going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Unfortunately yes, most Western countries are in the Globalist minority with America. And what's happening in America is also happening in Europe. People are resorting to Fascism in order to stop being marginalized in their own countries by racial minorities. What happened in Hungary is especially scary. Viktor Orbán became dictator by promising to build a wall to keep out immigrants. I'm just happy Trump is too stupid to pull that off.

    Culture is a result of race, and even putting culture aside, multiracialism still causes a lowering of social trust and more fights over representation.
    I don't view Orban as any worse than the dictators of the EU Commission. Orban at least puts his country before that monstrosity.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Well same here, I don't think we should have closed borders either. I don't even think we should completely ban minority immigration. I think we should go back to the policies we had before 1965. Right now, we need to ban non-white immigrants, but if we can get the white population back to at least 80%, we can take a few non-white immigrants again.
    I'd prefer skill and culture based policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't see any fascism going on.
    The Republican Party has gone Fascist by swearing undying loyalty to Trump. The GOA just confirmed that Trump broke the law when he attempted to bribe a foreign president to help him cheat in an election. But does it matter? Will the Republicans stand up for Democracy and vote to remove him? Probably not. If Trump decided he wants to make one of his stupid kids his successor without an election, the RNC will support that too. This is Fascism.

    I don't view Orban as any worse than the dictators of the EU Commission. Orban at least puts his country before that monstrosity.
    I don't like the EU either, I'd love to see the whole union break up. But considering that any country is free to leave the union anytime they want, they can't really be called dictators. And yeah, I know it's taking forever for the UK to leave, but that's just because the government hasn't been able to agree on terms. Legally speaking, the UK could just leave right now and the EU won't stop them.
    Regardless, the point is that multiracialism is driving Europe to the Far Right. In Hungary it's happened in a way that's terribly similar to our own, only Trump isn't smart enough to take over like Orbán did.

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