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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I can mostly agree with that, but the justification usually comes before the act. It typically requires a psychotic mental state to commit an atrocity and still feel that you are doing "the right thing."

    Religion isn't the only way down that path, but it's a common one. Many political ideologies function in the same way as religion by driving people toward violence while still feeling self-righteous in their actions. We've seen how militant progressivism leads to violence from Antifa, for example.
    Absolutely, any ideology can become extremist. But there is a big difference between ideologies that are violent because they call for violence, and ideologies that aren't violent, but can become extremist when people need to use them as justification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The Republican Party has gone Fascist by swearing undying loyalty to Trump. The GOA just confirmed that Trump broke the law when he attempted to bribe a foreign president to help him cheat in an election. But does it matter? Will the Republicans stand up for Democracy and vote to remove him? Probably not. If Trump decided he wants to make one of his stupid kids his successor without an election, the RNC will support that too. This is Fascism.
    If he manages the bolded, then you'll have cause to claim fascism. The rest is hyperbole.


    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I don't like the EU either, I'd love to see the whole union break up. But considering that any country is free to leave the union anytime they want, they can't really be called dictators. And yeah, I know it's taking forever for the UK to leave, but that's just because the government hasn't been able to agree on terms. Legally speaking, the UK could just leave right now and the EU won't stop them.
    Regardless, the point is that multiracialism is driving Europe to the Far Right. In Hungary it's happened in a way that's terribly similar to our own, only Trump isn't smart enough to take over like Orbán did.
    Then you see the options. You choose globalism, and I choose what you call fascism, but I don't view it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Absolutely, any ideology can become extremist. But there is a big difference between ideologies that are violent because they call for violence, and ideologies that aren't violent, but can become extremist when people need to use them as justification.
    In the case of Islam, it does call for violence. It's just that most followers of it don't interpret it as literally as Al Quida and ISIS. I guess we're lucky that they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    In the case of Islam, it does call for violence. It's just that most followers of it don't interpret it as literally as Al Quida and ISIS. I guess we're lucky that they don't.
    Religion is different because virtually no adult actually believes in their own religion. That's why culture informs the religion, not the other way around. This is different from something like Antifa which is defined by extremism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    If he manages the bolded, then you'll have cause to claim fascism. The rest is hyperbole.
    The GOA confirmed that Trump broke the law. He broke the law to try to cheat in an election. The entire RNC is pretending this didn't happen out of blind loyalty.
    Could you at least grant me that this kind of thing leads to Fascism?

    Then you see the options. You choose globalism, and I choose what you call fascism, but I don't view it as such.
    Well both parties are Globalist, the DNC is just more so. But Globalism is still alive in the RNC with Trump increasing outsourcing, loaning troops to Saudi Arabia, and bombing countries for Israel.

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    Brahman encarnata said:
    "Whatever action is performed by a great man,
    common men follow in his footsteps.
    And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts,
    all the world pursues."


    Commentary by a wise old Indian, named A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami:
    People in general always require a leader who can teach the public by practical behavior.
    A leader cannot teach the public to stop smoking if he himself smokes.
    A teacher should behave properly even before he begins teaching.
    One who teaches in that way is called the ideal teacher.
    Therefore, a teacher must follow the principles of Law to reach the common man.
    The teacher cannot manufacture rules against the principles of established Law.
    The established Law and similar others,
    are considered the standard books to be followed by human society.
    Thus the leader's teaching should be based on the principles of the
    standard rules as they are practiced by the great teachers.
    One should follow in the footsteps of great maestros,
    and that is the way of progress on the path of self-actualization.
    The king or the executive head of a state, the father and the
    school teacher are all considered to be natural leaders of the
    innocent people in general. All such natural leaders have a
    great responsibility to their dependents; therefore they must
    be conversant with standard books of moral and spiritual codes.

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    Brahman encarnata also said:
    "What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the self-controlled;
    and the time of awakening for all beings is night for the introspective sage."


    Commentary by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami:
    There are two classes of intelligent men. The one is intelligent in material
    activities for sense gratification, and the other is introspective and awake
    to the cultivation of self-realization. Activities of the introspective sage,
    or thoughtful man, are night for persons materially absorbed. Materialistic
    persons remain asleep in such a night due to their ignorance of self-realization.
    The introspective sage remains alert in the "night" of the materialistic men.
    The sage feels transcendental pleasure in the gradual advancement of spiritual
    culture, whereas the man in materialistic activities, being asleep to self-realization,
    dreams of varieties of sense pleasure, feeling sometimes happy and sometimes
    distressed in his sleeping condition. The introspective man is always indifferent
    to materialistic happiness and distress. He goes on with his self-realization
    activities undisturbed by material reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    The only people "depressed" in this country are Democrats and liberals. They have been since 2016. No one of consequence cares.
    Of all the correlations between trump voters and demographic groups, the best is "worsening health outcomes". There is a huge group of Americans who are losing life expectancy due to poor life choices, and those people are heavily correlated to trump voters. Most Americans, like most people in the world, are living longer, but this group is losing life expectancy so fast that they are actually bringing down the average. America has been losing life expectancy for 3 years, which is virtually unheard of.

    The normal parts of the political spectrum disagrees as to what the solutions are, but wants solutions that help even those they oppose. Old school conservatives thought liberals would be better off in a conservative run world.

    The new Alt Right wants revenge for their suffering, even if the suffering is self caused. They pride themselves on having policies that cause suffering among most Americans. They enjoy trump for his talk about raping women. They love Limbaugh and Nugent because they raped children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Religion is different because virtually no adult actually believes in their own religion. That's why culture informs the religion, not the other way around. This is different from something like Antifa which is defined by extremism.
    If by "virtually no adult", you mean no adult who isn't an extremist, I can mostly agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The GOA confirmed that Trump broke the law. He broke the law to try to cheat in an election. The entire RNC is pretending this didn't happen out of blind loyalty.
    Could you at least grant me that this kind of thing leads to Fascism?
    None of that has been proven.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Well both parties are Globalist, the DNC is just more so. But Globalism is still alive in the RNC with Trump increasing outsourcing, loaning troops to Saudi Arabia, and bombing countries for Israel.
    I can agree that the GOP still has globalism as well, but Trump is less globalist than his most recent predecessors.

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    "Why Is America So Depressed?"

    People are frustrated because they are stressed out. Personal peace of mind is elusive. Many things are blamed, usually looking outward when the solution can often be found by looking inward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Of all the correlations between trump voters and demographic groups, the best is "worsening health outcomes". There is a huge group of Americans who are losing life expectancy due to poor life choices, and those people are heavily correlated to trump voters. Most Americans, like most people in the world, are living longer, but this group is losing life expectancy so fast that they are actually bringing down the average. America has been losing life expectancy for 3 years, which is virtually unheard of.

    The normal parts of the political spectrum disagrees as to what the solutions are, but wants solutions that help even those they oppose. Old school conservatives thought liberals would be better off in a conservative run world.

    The new Alt Right wants revenge for their suffering, even if the suffering is self caused. They pride themselves on having policies that cause suffering among most Americans. They enjoy trump for his talk about raping women. They love Limbaugh and Nugent because they raped children.
    If you want to talk about poor life decisions leading to shorter lifespans, that goes beyond just white people.

    Black people, on average, have shorter lifespans here, largely because of less healthy diets. A lot of popular food in the black community is higher in fat and cholesterol than that of many other diets. This results in a high obesity rate. You'll also notice a high obesity rate among Latinos.

    Out of all Americans, Asians tend to have the longest lifespans due to having the healthiest diets. That being said, Latinos do actually have a longer lifespan than non-Hispanic whites and blacks despite having a higher obesity rate than both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    None of that has been proven.
    Come on.

    I can agree that the GOP still has globalism as well, but Trump is less globalist than his most recent predecessors.
    Sure. So the choice is between Globalism and Fascism with some Globalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    If by "virtually no adult", you mean no adult who isn't an extremist, I can mostly agree with that.
    I think even the extremists don't really believe. It's no coincidence that most Muslims who blow themselves up are dirt poor and know that after they die, their families are going to be taken care of by the heads of their terrorist cell.
    It's more likely that they're doing this for their families, but also know what they're doing is terrible, so they're telling themselves it's what God wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    If you want to talk about poor life decisions leading to shorter lifespans, that goes beyond just white people.

    Black people, on average, have shorter lifespans here, largely because of less healthy diets. A lot of popular food in the black community is higher in fat and cholesterol than that of many other diets. This results in a high obesity rate. You'll also notice a high obesity rate among Latinos.

    Out of all Americans, Asians tend to have the longest lifespans due to having the healthiest diets. That being said, Latinos do actually have a longer lifespan than non-Hispanic whites and blacks despite having a higher obesity rate than both.
    Black life expectancy is rising drastically in the USA as they improve their chooses. Whites are the ones with declining life expectancies. So Woko Haram is correct that blacks have shorter life expectancies, they are increasing. Whites have longer life expectancies, but are decreasing.

    But only some whites. Most whites also have rising life expectancies. There is a subsection of whites in America that have crashing life expectancies. It is so bad that even though they are a minority of Americans, they are bringing down the average for everyone. America has had three years of loss of average life expectancy. That is nearly unheard of. That is Syria level problems. Even North Korea could not mess up for three years straight.

    The whites losing life expectancy are most closely correlate to trump voters. It is almost like trump is another one of those poor life decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Come on.


    Sure. So the choice is between Globalism and Fascism with some Globalism.
    lol Sieg heil then.

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