Trump. The President that lost Iraq.

[Jack]

To Jack & Cypress: Even if there is an ounce of truth in your interpretation there is no comparison to FDR losing China.

How about George the Third losing the Colonies?

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Western, and especially US, interference in the life of the Middle East wiped out all serious politics in a truly McCarthyite manner, forcing the opposition into the mosque to make its points. One of the results of this was to revive the fairly archaic division between Sunni and Shia, and when Bush invaded Iraq to cover up the Saudi involvement in 9.11, it was thought fit to replace Sunni dominance with Shia dominance, lining up Iraq with the Iran the Americans had created by overthrowing Iranian democracy and setting up the Shah's dictatorship, overthrown in turn by the only possible revolution. Now Trumpf has begun behaving like a cross between Hitler and the worst possible sort of imperialist, a lot of Americans (and others) are going to become dead unless you get out. Heil Trumpf and the Cult of the Personality! And what a bloody personality!

[Flanders]

How about George the Third losing the Colonies?

To Jack: Poor reference. Limey George lost to territorial independence. Not a bad loss when all is said and done.

FDR lost to Communism’s ideology.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

To Jack: Poor reference. Limey George lost to territorial independence. Not a bad loss when all is said and done.

FDR lost to Communism’s ideology.

King George lost to France, with slave-owning British collaborationists dodging their taxes. What's that got to do with anything?

[Jack]

King George lost to France, with slave-owning British collaborationists dodging their taxes. What's that got to do with anything?

... about as much as FDR losing to China.

[Flanders]

... about as much as FDR losing to China.

To Jack: FDR did not lose TO China. HE LOST CHINA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_of_China

There is enough blame to go around:

https://www.google.com/search?client...4dUDCAc&uact=5

but FDR deserves the lion’s share.

[Jack]

To Jack: FDR did not lose TO China. HE LOST CHINA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_of_China

There is enough blame to go around:

https://www.google.com/search?client...4dUDCAc&uact=5

but FDR deserves the lion’s share.

This is very current. I'm guessing you WON'T be Voting for FDR this time around?

[Flash]

Trump ... and Red Team, really fucked this up.

Bush lost Iraq when he invaded (plus Afghanistan)

[Truth Detector]

Liberals are very partisan about war and nation building. One minute they want you to withdraw, the next minute it's "you're abandoning the Kurds" or "you're giving Iraq to Iran."

If Trump decides to instead increase American troops in Iraq, the next narrative will be "he's defying the wishes of a democratic government" or "he's putting more American lives in danger."

There literally is no action Trump could take that would please them. This is why it's more fun to just watch them scream and squirm.

True!

Trump declares that he likes air and that air is good!

Left's response:

[Truth Detector]

Bush lost Iraq when he invaded (plus Afghanistan)

WRONG; Saddam lost Iraq when the US enforced the agreements he failed to keep. No one loses when Democracy starts to bloom.

[Flash]

To Jack & Cypress: Even if there is an ounce of truth in your interpretation there is no comparison to FDR losing China.

How did FDR "lose" China?

[Flash]

WRONG; Saddam lost Iraq when the US enforced the agreements he failed to keep. No one loses when Democracy starts to bloom.

Democracy never blooms under a foreign invasion. Nationalism is going to trump everything else and they are going to fight as long as their lands are occupied. Iraq did not even have al queda fighters until the U. S. invasion destabilized the region.

[Truth Detector]

Democracy never blooms under a foreign invasion.

It wasn't an invasion sour puss; it was a liberation.

Nationalism is going to trump everything else and they are going to fight as long as their lands are occupied. Iraq did not even have al queda fighters until the U. S. invasion destabilized the region.

The US fought a massive and destructive civil war 90 years into it's blooming democracy.

[Flash]

It wasn't an invasion sour puss; it was a liberation.

The US fought a massive and destructive civil war 90 years into it's blooming democracy.

It isn't a liberation when one country occupies and controls another country for 20 years.

We are a democracy? A civil war is not the same thing as a foreign invasion and occupation. Nations are almost never successful when they are fighting a war that is a far away, the enemy does not engage in conventional warfare, and the stakes are more important for them than the invading nation.

[Truth Detector]

It isn't a liberation when one country occupies and controls another country for 20 years.

There wasn't ONE country involved in the Iraq liberation. It was at least 36 nations and it was a UN enforcement action. Get some facts before you bloviate snowflake.

We are a democracy?

Yes we are; look it up. A Democracy based on a Republic of States with a central Government with limited powers. Shocker eh????

A civil war is not the same thing as a foreign invasion and occupation.

I used it was an example of how difficult Democracy is to implement you fool.

Nations are almost never successful when they are fighting a war that is a far away, the enemy does not engage in conventional warfare, and the stakes are more important for them than the invading nation.

WTF does this word salad have to do with the topic? We won the war in Iraq and Afghanistan in weeks and months; and with the least cost in lives of any wars we have engaged in.

You need to get out more and read some books.