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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Show me one direct relationship with LBJ , as in Bush the baby killer with Carlyle and The pig Cheney with Halliburton. I hope you understand that those two company's were the biggest winners in dollars and cents in Bushes liars war.
    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=1569483

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Were in the hell did you get that idea , they will be selling arms to Iran for ever. These wars don't change they just keep on going. Please respond with something that has a little more tooth then your last two responses.
    So you think Iran would survive a war with us? The most likely outcome is that Iran's government would be toppled, and the new regime would no longer do business with Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    You don't even know do you?
    About what, bander? You're making even less sense than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    One more time. China is the biggest capitalistic country in the world, now how many times will I have to write that/
    And a state capitalism is quite different from our capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Chinas trade war , this country's population is paying increased prices for products, China being our biggest trading country is a massive decrease of American products and loss of thousands of jobs. Business that trades with China either export wise or import wise are losing millions. So the facts, increased prices for the whole population of this country , loss of jobs and million upon millions in lost sale as either a importer in this country or a exporter in this country. You just have to laugh at these wacko right idea that a trade war with our biggest trading partner is cool/
    You don't understand that China depends more on our consumption than we depend on their production. Even before the trade war, production was leaving China for cheaper countries. The trade war expedited this.

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    SO this prooves what, all it says is that they contributed to his election , well big whoopy they also contributed to his opponent. Good try though. LBJ had no connection to the company. Cheney was Halliburton and Bush the baby killer is Carlyle. Big difference.
    Last edited by jbander; 01-04-2020 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    SO this grooves what, all it says is that they contributed to his election , well big whoopy they also contributed to his opponent. Good try though. LBJ had no connection to the company. Cheney was Halliburton and Bush the baby killer is Carlyle. Big difference.
    Believe what you want. I can see that there is definitely no swaying you from your assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    You don't understand that China depends more on our consumption than we depend on their production. Even before the trade war, production was leaving China for cheaper countries. The trade war expedited this.
    Your ridiculous , The polished turd put his first tariff on China in Jan 2018 then increased them in March and April and The GDP of China went from 6.7 to 6.8 in that period Ya they need us in a big way. They still have a massive GDP of 6.4% and it is expected to stay there for some time. The insanity is your rooting for a trade war with our biggest trading partner that's stupid. All you have to do is look at every single one of the turds tarrif wars with all our allies and you find out they gave up nothing that they couldn't have gotten by just asking. He is a fucking idiot and you love him for it. . By the way we gave up something also and guess what , the polished turd will get nothing from China , China increased their trade by lowering tariffs on all the other countries. He's a idiot and his supporters are idiots. What a joke. Your trade war that you are rooting for is absolutely stupid. We gained shit and made enemy's of our allies , Ya that's a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Believe what you want. I can see that there is definitely no swaying you from your assumptions.
    If you can't see the difference then buddy it isn't me that is missing the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Your ridiculous , The polished turd put his first tariff on China in Jan 2018 then increased them in March and April and The GDP of China went from 6.7 to 6.8 in that period Ya they need us in a big way. They still have a massive GDP of 6.4% and it is expected to stay there for some time. The insanity is your rooting for a trade war with our biggest trading partner that's stupid. All you have to do is look at every single one of the turds tarrif wars with all our allies and you find out they gave up nothing that they couldn't have gotten by just asking. He is a fucking idiot and you love him for it. . By the way we gave up something also and guess what , the polished turd will get nothing from China , China increased their trade by lowering tariffs on all the other countries. He's a idiot and his supporters are idiots. What a joke. Your trade war that you are rooting for is absolutely stupid. We gained shit and made enemy's of our allies , Ya that's a winner.
    When you're done hyperventilating, try to read the following with some comprehension.

    China is currently running on a lot more private debt than we are. They've spent a lot of money on artificially propping up their middle class with personal loans. This has resulted in an increase of standard of living for much of their urban population, but it isn't sustainable. In addition, their government essentially runs most of their industries. The central planning approach involves a lot of waste. To maintain construction growth, for example, they've built several ghost cities. While there are plenty of American companies that still do business with them, the Chinese economy is a house of cards.

    It will crash eventually, and the upper management of China probably realizes this. This is part of why they've done so much to try and establish various raw material supply chains in Africa and South America. If they can maintain a decent supply chain with those areas, that will postpone the crash (and will prevent massive starvation), but this approach has its own problems. In order to construct the infrastructures needed for these supply chains, they've lent out a ton of money to various African countries and Latin American ones. The prospect of getting this money back is slim. The gains from the raw materials will offset the money spent somewhat, but it isn't likely to cover the overall expenses anytime soon. So the related debt puts pressure on their system, in addition to the private debt I mentioned above.

    The trade war has exacerbated their situation somewhat, because the tariffs reduce our consumption of their products while encouraging our companies to shift production to places like India, Pakistan, or Indonesia. No trade war can be done without some harm to one's own country, but China has felt the pain more than us. This is shown by recent events.

    https://time.com/5749668/us-china-trade-deal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    When you're done hyperventilating, try to read the following with some comprehension.

    China is currently running on a lot more private debt than we are. They've spent a lot of money on artificially propping up their middle class with personal loans. This has resulted in an increase of standard of living for much of their urban population, but it isn't sustainable. In addition, their government essentially runs most of their industries. The central planning approach involves a lot of waste. To maintain construction growth, for example, they've built several ghost cities. While there are plenty of American companies that still do business with them, the Chinese economy is a house of cards.

    It will crash eventually, and the upper management of China probably realizes this. This is part of why they've done so much to try and establish various raw material supply chains in Africa and South America. If they can maintain a decent supply chain with those areas, that will postpone the crash (and will prevent massive starvation), but this approach has its own problems. In order to construct the infrastructures needed for these supply chains, they've lent out a ton of money to various African countries and Latin American ones. The prospect of getting this money back is slim. The gains from the raw materials will offset the money spent somewhat, but it isn't likely to cover the overall expenses anytime soon. So the related debt puts pressure on their system, in addition to the private debt I mentioned above.

    The trade war has exacerbated their situation somewhat, because the tariffs reduce our consumption of their products while encouraging our companies to shift production to places like India, Pakistan, or Indonesia. No trade war can be done without some harm to one's own country, but China has felt the pain more than us. This is shown by recent events.

    https://time.com/5749668/us-china-trade-deal/
    What in the world gives you the idea that I would be interested enough to look through your garbage heap of opinions. You are worth a sentence or two but not this essay, Was it copy paste. . I think by my comments in reference to what you have written here. that You would understand that I think what you are saying is nothing but bullshit. Your just another right wing hater as far as I can see. You will never let a fact get in the way of your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    What in the world gives you the idea that I would be interested enough to look through your garbage heap of opinions. You are worth a sentence or two but not this essay, Was it copy paste. . I think by my comments in reference to what you have written here. that You would understand that I think what you are saying is nothing but bullshit. Your just another right wing hater as far as I can see. You will never let a fact get in the way of your opinion.
    This is pretty priceless. You claim I won't let facts get in the way of my opinion, but you're the one who won't even read my link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    This is pretty priceless. You claim I won't let facts get in the way of my opinion, but you're the one who won't even read my link.
    and in fact I never will, you clearly defined who you were exactly with what you had said in the earlier part of this thread. Your claim to anything that could pass for facts would be by accident only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    but but but...…….Putin ordered trump to do it
    Why do you keep sucking Putin’s dick ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    So you think Iran would survive a war with us? The most likely outcome is that Iran's government would be toppled, and the new regime would no longer do business with Russia.
    Iran is 4 times the area that Iraq is and it is very mountainous. Yeah, they would survive like every other country we attacked. Did Korea survive? How about Viet Nam. The most likely scenario is about 20 years of death and destruction and a few trillion dollars ending in a no-decision.
    Iran is also adept at cyber war.

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