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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Maybe you realize you've been had on the Putin narrative. Iran is an ally of Russia, so clearly, the US going to war with them is not in Russia's best interests.
    Maybe try this one again. They make money if Iran goes to war , maybe try thinking before commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    If we actually go to war with Iran, Russia will lose a vital ally. Any gains they make from arms in the short run will be meaningless after Iran is destroyed.

    Russia is generally a long term thinking country. They would not like to see an important ally destroyed, because that would weaken their influence in the region.

    So it wouldn't really be a boom for Russia in any significant sense.
    Good grief , try to run your comment through a reason machine before you spit this silliness out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Yeah, we did destroy Iraq for the most part. We've been rebuilding it for a while, but it's been expensive.

    If we go to war with Iran, it's going to probably look like Iraq did in the early 2000s.
    and then we turnaround and rebuild Iran, That looks really productive as shown by Iraq. Your point is 100% backwards. Back to the point , your God and leader would start a war to stay in power. That's sick twisted goofiness. I'm just taking it for granted that you support this . Your party is based on the reason of a mad man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Going to war with Iran may end up benefiting Trump, but there really isn't much at all for Russia to gain. I can see your cognitive dissonance spiraling outward, however.
    So you believe the lack of reason is on our part, saying that Russia gains in every way from a war in Iran. People who rewrite what is happening now are the same people who use lies to distort history. You are simply wrong and blind to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Kind of. I would call it more globalist than right wing. Historically, the right wing was actually less bellicose until the Cold War.
    Funny that's 70 years. That's who you and your party are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I mean, you could easily google it, but here's a decent starting point. https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ccess-in-iraq/
    This is a joke , in the war who gained the most monetarily and in rebuilding who gained the most. This answer says everything that has to be said about the liars war. Big Winners, Halliburton and Carlyle. If you don't know what that means ,it means Cheney Halliburton, Bush Carlyle. The right are blind stupid. They can't even add 1 and 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    If you want to say that the money helped the Saudis, that might be the case, but Russia really had nothing to do with Iraq.

    You sound obsessed.
    Saudis , now that's funny. Do you mean American company's in Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Communism as an ideology is left-wing, but the countries that promised it were all right-wing dictatorships.
    Yup Right wing dictatorship, communism only in name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The only left-wing system that doesn't have elites is the commune. Left-wing countries like the Nordic ones do have elites, but they have less wealth and power than the elites in right-wing countries because they have a system of Social Democracy that continues redistributing wealth.
    I do agree that trying to create a commune on a huge scale is impossible and will probably always lead to a right-wing dictatorship. That's why I'm a Social Democrat, not a Communist.
    I will argue that Social Democracy is not socialism. The key ingredient is missing. No more then the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party, was socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I wouldn't consider the Nordic countries to be left wing on economics overall. Socially, you could say they are left wing, but in some ways, Sweden is more free market than us.

    Also, Norway, Denmark, and Finland have been trending more towards capitalism over time.
    You tool for defining socialism is broken, the worlds biggest capitalistic country is China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Ya but the dems never started one for the increase of their personal wealth , with a 100% lie that they knew was a lie from day one. Don't believe , simply look up code name curve ball. You want stupid then you go along with what Curve ball said to start the war and no it wasn't the democrats fault , they where giving these lies from Bush the baby killer and George Tenet. Who was tooled to support Bushes lie. The same way your leader tools everyone of his staff while you just watch.
    There are plenty of war profiteers on the Democrat side. LBJ is a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Maybe try this one again. They make money if Iran goes to war , maybe try thinking before commenting.
    I already addressed that. Why would Russia put short term arms sales ahead of keeping a longtime ally intact? If we go to war with Iran, that's the end of their influence in Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Good grief , try to run your comment through a reason machine before you spit this silliness out.
    I did. If you don't understand that we will topple their government after defeating them in a war, then I don't know what to tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    and then we turnaround and rebuild Iran, That looks really productive as shown by Iraq. Your point is 100% backwards. Back to the point , your God and leader would start a war to stay in power. That's sick twisted goofiness. I'm just taking it for granted that you support this . Your party is based on the reason of a mad man.
    I'd prefer we don't go to war with Iran. All I'm saying is that the Russia narrative makes no sense when applied to what Trump looks like he's about to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    So you believe the lack of reason is on our part, saying that Russia gains in every way from a war in Iran. People who rewrite what is happening now are the same people who use lies to distort history. You are simply wrong and blind to boot.
    Russia would not benefit from losing an ally. Is it really that hard for you to understand that? Even if I was liberal and hated Trump, I would view it this way. You guys are really fixated on Russia for some reason.

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