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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Nuclear radiation does not respect borders. If nukes are used, who knows, some of that radiation might reach Israel.
    Today, the US has a range of Tactical (small-yield) Nuclear warheads that it could use to make surgical strikes on political and military targets in Iran, and targets like its three oil refineries. These Tactical Nuclear warheads would cause maximal destruction of their targets and minimal collateral damage in terms of civilian deaths, etc.

    I cannot see the point of putting any American combat troops on the ground in Iran or Iraq if a serious conflict begins as a result of Soleimani's assassination, because it is inevitable that there would be casualties. But why risk ONE American life ? Why risk ONE American life when the enemy can be taken out by pushing some buttons in an air-conditioned room in the Pentagon (or wherever). Iran is a bad nation. Iran is a crazy nation of Muslims whose political leadership think that the world should by converted to Islam by force. Iran hates America and all American values. Iran is in the process of trying to develop nuclear weapons, if they are not stopped they will eventually succeed. (And) they would not hesitate one microsecond in launching nuclear ICBMs against the United States if they had them. These are some of the reasons that I think Trump should take out Iran immediately with Tactical nuclear strikes against its oil refineries, military infrastructure, political leadership, industrial bases. The people of Iran would recover soon enough. I mean, the are basically peasant who live their lives according to the dictates of a 7th century religion document (Sharia Law) that is very simple. They could resume a medieval way of life as farmers, pasturalists, craftsman, tradesmen, artisans and so on. They do not need access to advanced modern technology from the West, after all most of them are illiterate. So, after they have been taught a lesson about not engaging in terrorism or using violence and threats to alter the course of world politics by having their whole S**T-hole razed to the ground, why not just leave them in peace to do their primitive, medieval thing. They can pray to Allah all they like; they can treat their women like S**T and they can throw queers off the top of cliffs, and amputate the hands of thieves, if that's what Mohammed tells them to do ! After all, that's THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS, not the business of America. Let them carry on like monkeys if that's what they absolutely insist on doing -WHO CARES ? WHO GIVES A F**K ? - so long as they do it in their OWN back yard. They only thing they will absolutely not be allowed to do is develop nuclear weapons.

    As far as radiation poisoning is concerned, if you consider the Japanese Fukishima Nuclear that was destroyed (pretty much) by a tsunami (that was generated by an earthquake) in 2011. Despite the media panic at the time, it turned there has only been one (1) officially recorded death due to radiation from the incident at the Fukishima plant to date.

    When the Chernobyl Reactor meltdown happened in the former USSR in 1986, only a small number of persons died as a result of direct exposure to radiation. It was the release into the atmosphere and subsequent dispersal of the radiation released by the broken reactor was the major concern. This radiation would predictably contaminate the residential areas the surrounding the plant and these regions, of course, were immediately evacuated. But the cloud of radiation released from the meltdown at Chernobyl could very well disperse a considerable distance, and drift into the atmospheres of other more distant areas of Russia or proximate regions of Europe. I think that the official figure to date for the number of individuals who are known( for certain) to have died AS A CONSEQUENCE OF DIRECT RESULT of exposure to high doses of radiation at Chernobyl is about 60. This figure includes people who were inside, or in the close vicinity of the Chernobyl plant, when the meltdown occurred and died from, for example, some form of cancer, relatively soon (1 to 2 years, etc) after.

    People who are exposure to the kind of radiation that was released by the meltdown at Chernobyl can develop fatal cancers (and other diseases) , like thyroid cancer, years or decades after they have come into contact with this radiation. There is some an official body, I think it is called the UNITED NATIONS SELECTIVE COMMITTEE on the EFFECTS of RADIATION, or something like that (I'm not 100% sure). This body was asked for an estimate of the total number of people who might eventually die due to the radiation that was released from the Chernobyl Reactor meltdown in 1986, and they came up with a figure of about 4,000. They worked this out using a Mathematical (statistical) model that is highly contentious; so contentious that the figure of 4,000 is basically just speculation as it is impossible to accurately predict how many people in the future will develop cancer in the years and decades after the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown. The reasons for this are many, for instance, suppose that two 30 - year -old- men were living in a certain village 200 miles from Chernobyl on the day the nuclear meltdown occurred. The nuclear radiation from the Chernobyl reactor was released into the atmosphere above and then spread out. A strong air current in the atmosphere carried some of the radiation that escaped from the reactor to the village where our young two men were living, and both of them came into contact with equal doses radiation because they were having a drink together after work in the village pub. One of these men developed a lethal thyroid cancer 25 years later and died (and I going to imagine that we developed the medical technology to be able to confirm beyond doubt, that this cancer WAS caused by nuclear radiation), the other man, however, lived a long and healthy life and passed away at the age of 97 from natural causes. Human beings are all different in terms of their physical body and its physiology, biochemistry, etc. An amount of radiation that might kill one person in 5 years, will in many cases have no effect on other individuals of the same sex, age, ethnicity/race, etc - it's impossible to predict, there are too many variables.


    BTW, I'm not saying that of the Japanese people who were on the ground at Hiroshima and managed to survive the actual thermonuclear explosion of the H- bomb when it was dropped in 1945, thousands didn't died relatively shortly after due to radiation poisoning - they did. I'm saying that in my view if a nation like the US or the old USSR is carrying out nuclear tests in some isolated desert or in the middle of some vast ocean, miles and miles away from any form of human civilisation than, really, its improbable, IMO, that any people are going to be made ill or die from radiation poisoning. When America was testing the first H-Bomb in a desert in 1945, the military personnel, scientists and press corps who were there to observe the event (there were quite a lot of people all up) - the first successful detonation of a nuclear device, were all placed well away from where the H- Bomb itself was located, but not so far that they couldn't hear the tremendous roar of the explosion and see everything around them bathed in an intense, super-brilliant white light when it exploded. None of these people have ever been reported to have suffered any kind of illness from related to exposure to radiation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Nuclear radiation does not respect borders. If nukes are used, who knows, some of that radiation might reach Israel.
    if there was a hint of the use of nukes Dimona would be toast- and Izrael would not survive that as a country, let alone as the focus of the repugnant ethnic cleansing doctrine of Zionism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    if there was a hint of the use of nukes Dimona would be toast- and Izrael would not survive that as a country, let alone as the focus of the repugnant ethnic cleansing doctrine of Zionism.

    WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.....ISRAEL IS "ETHNIC CLEANSING" WHOM?



    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post

    WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.....ISRAEL IS "ETHNIC CLEANSING" WHOM?

    Where have you been for the past seventy years- advanced wanking courses ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Where have you been for the past seventy years- advanced wanking courses ?
    WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.


    MUSLIMS ENGAGED IN ETHNIC CLEANSING WITH NAZI GERMANY.


    GRAND MUFTI of JERUSALEM W/HITLER, DISCUSSING HANDING OVER THE JEWS of PALESTINE TO THE NAZIS, WHICH THE ISLAMOSLIME DID:




    GRAND MUFIT REVIEWING MUSLIM-NAZI BRIGADE:





    PLEASE SHOW US ALL THE ISRAELI DEATH CAMPS, LYINGASS, NAZI PUNK.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dachshynddawg View Post
    Today, the US has a range of Tactical (small-yield) Nuclear warheads that it could use to make surgical strikes on political and military targets in Iran, and targets like its three oil refineries. These Tactical Nuclear warheads would cause maximal destruction of their targets and minimal collateral damage in terms of civilian deaths, etc.

    I cannot see the point of putting any American combat troops on the ground in Iran or Iraq if a serious conflict begins as a result of Soleimani's assassination, because it is inevitable that there would be casualties. But why risk ONE American life ? Why risk ONE American life when the enemy can be taken out by pushing some buttons in an air-conditioned room in the Pentagon (or wherever). Iran is a bad nation. Iran is a crazy nation of Muslims whose political leadership think that the world should by converted to Islam by force. Iran hates America and all American values. Iran is in the process of trying to develop nuclear weapons, if they are not stopped they will eventually succeed. (And) they would not hesitate one microsecond in launching nuclear ICBMs against the United States if they had them. These are some of the reasons that I think Trump should take out Iran immediately with Tactical nuclear strikes against its oil refineries, military infrastructure, political leadership, industrial bases. The people of Iran would recover soon enough. I mean, the are basically peasant who live their lives according to the dictates of a 7th century religion document (Sharia Law) that is very simple. They could resume a medieval way of life as farmers, pasturalists, craftsman, tradesmen, artisans and so on. They do not need access to advanced modern technology from the West, after all most of them are illiterate. So, after they have been taught a lesson about not engaging in terrorism or using violence and threats to alter the course of world politics by having their whole S**T-hole razed to the ground, why not just leave them in peace to do their primitive, medieval thing. They can pray to Allah all they like; they can treat their women like S**T and they can throw queers off the top of cliffs, and amputate the hands of thieves, if that's what Mohammed tells them to do ! After all, that's THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS, not the business of America. Let them carry on like monkeys if that's what they absolutely insist on doing -WHO CARES ? WHO GIVES A F**K ? - so long as they do it in their OWN back yard. They only thing they will absolutely not be allowed to do is develop nuclear weapons.

    As far as radiation poisoning is concerned, if you consider the Japanese Fukishima Nuclear that was destroyed (pretty much) by a tsunami (that was generated by an earthquake) in 2011. Despite the media panic at the time, it turned there has only been one (1) officially recorded death due to radiation from the incident at the Fukishima plant to date.

    When the Chernobyl Reactor meltdown happened in the former USSR in 1986, only a small number of persons died as a result of direct exposure to radiation. It was the release into the atmosphere and subsequent dispersal of the radiation released by the broken reactor was the major concern. This radiation would predictably contaminate the residential areas the surrounding the plant and these regions, of course, were immediately evacuated. But the cloud of radiation released from the meltdown at Chernobyl could very well disperse a considerable distance, and drift into the atmospheres of other more distant areas of Russia or proximate regions of Europe. I think that the official figure to date for the number of individuals who are known( for certain) to have died AS A CONSEQUENCE OF DIRECT RESULT of exposure to high doses of radiation at Chernobyl is about 60. This figure includes people who were inside, or in the close vicinity of the Chernobyl plant, when the meltdown occurred and died from, for example, some form of cancer, relatively soon (1 to 2 years, etc) after.

    People who are exposure to the kind of radiation that was released by the meltdown at Chernobyl can develop fatal cancers (and other diseases) , like thyroid cancer, years or decades after they have come into contact with this radiation. There is some an official body, I think it is called the UNITED NATIONS SELECTIVE COMMITTEE on the EFFECTS of RADIATION, or something like that (I'm not 100% sure). This body was asked for an estimate of the total number of people who might eventually die due to the radiation that was released from the Chernobyl Reactor meltdown in 1986, and they came up with a figure of about 4,000. They worked this out using a Mathematical (statistical) model that is highly contentious; so contentious that the figure of 4,000 is basically just speculation as it is impossible to accurately predict how many people in the future will develop cancer in the years and decades after the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown. The reasons for this are many, for instance, suppose that two 30 - year -old- men were living in a certain village 200 miles from Chernobyl on the day the nuclear meltdown occurred. The nuclear radiation from the Chernobyl reactor was released into the atmosphere above and then spread out. A strong air current in the atmosphere carried some of the radiation that escaped from the reactor to the village where our young two men were living, and both of them came into contact with equal doses radiation because they were having a drink together after work in the village pub. One of these men developed a lethal thyroid cancer 25 years later and died (and I going to imagine that we developed the medical technology to be able to confirm beyond doubt, that this cancer WAS caused by nuclear radiation), the other man, however, lived a long and healthy life and passed away at the age of 97 from natural causes. Human beings are all different in terms of their physical body and its physiology, biochemistry, etc. An amount of radiation that might kill one person in 5 years, will in many cases have no effect on other individuals of the same sex, age, ethnicity/race, etc - it's impossible to predict, there are too many variables.


    BTW, I'm not saying that of the Japanese people who were on the ground at Hiroshima and managed to survive the actual thermonuclear explosion of the H- bomb when it was dropped in 1945, thousands didn't died relatively shortly after due to radiation poisoning - they did. I'm saying that in my view if a nation like the US or the old USSR is carrying out nuclear tests in some isolated desert or in the middle of some vast ocean, miles and miles away from any form of human civilisation than, really, its improbable, IMO, that any people are going to be made ill or die from radiation poisoning. When America was testing the first H-Bomb in a desert in 1945, the military personnel, scientists and press corps who were there to observe the event (there were quite a lot of people all up) - the first successful detonation of a nuclear device, were all placed well away from where the H- Bomb itself was located, but not so far that they couldn't hear the tremendous roar of the explosion and see everything around them bathed in an intense, super-brilliant white light when it exploded. None of these people have ever been reported to have suffered any kind of illness from related to exposure to radiation.


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    Thank you for your post. For the most part, I agree with you. However, we are not done with Fukushima. Not by a long shot.

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    Crockmeister;
    GRAND MUFTI of JERUSALEM W/HITLER, DISCUSSING HANDING OVER THE JEWS of PALESTINE TO THE NAZIS, WHICH THE ISLAMOSLIME DID:
    The Mufti was appointed by the British- nothing to do with Palestinians. You think that the British ASKED them ?

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini was, as records clearly prove, never even representative of the indigenous Palestinian people. He was appointed by the British. This fact demands the condemnation of Netanyahu and the denial of his insane remarks by the British government. Where is this condemnation and this denial ?


    Dear Socialist Worker,
    Following the recent and widespread coverage of the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, attempting to lay the cause of the Holocaust at the feet of the Palestinian religious leader of the period, Haj Amin al-Husseini , we should demand a condemnation of Netanyahu from the British government. Why ? Because the man Netanyahu charges with instigating the Holocaust, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem- Haj Amin al-Husseini - was actually appointed by the British. Where is the Tory condemnation of Netanyahu's insanity ? Without it we must conclude that our current government agrees with him.
    Haw, haw......................haw.

    The Zionist agenda was/is and always will be the ethnic cleansing of Palestine- until Zionism is crushed.
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    The Grand Mufti, who is the ecclesiastical head of the Moslems in Jerusalem, on hearing the news concerning the mandate, still refused to believe that the British, who had pledged themselves to protect small powers, and who had promised that their rights should not be violated, would allow the Christians and Moslems of Palestine to be ruled by Political Zionists. The Moslems, he said, looked upon Great Britain as their best friend; they had welcomed the arrival of the British armies; and in spite of all appearance to the contrary, he still believed that Great Britain would treat them fairly. The Grand Mufti was anxious that it should be understood that he and his followers were not anti-Jews, but that they objected to their country's being exploited by Jewish foreigners, and to their efforts to make both Christians and Moslems their vassals. While the Zionists during the past years had collected through propaganda immense sums from all parts of the world, he said, the Moslem and Christian natives of Palestine, by reason of the Turkish oppression and the war, were without funds. All that they asked for was a number of years in which to get on their feet economically. The Moslems, the Grand Mufti told the writer, had no objections to the same quiet development of Jewish colonies going on as in the past. What they did strenuously object to was the plan of the British government to turn over their land to the Political Zionists, for the purpose of establishing a Jewish state.

    The highly respected Aref Pasha, President of the Moslem and Christian League, which had been formed to stem the tide of Jewish immigration, said that the Moslems, understanding Great Britain's love for justice, decided to fight their coreligionists and to throw in their lot with her. Not less than 130,000 Moslems, many of them deserters from the Turkish army, fought with the British. The Moslems of India also figured prominently in the same cause. Now, however, they find that the British victory means for them vassalage under the Jews; the people, he said, preferred the tyranny of the Turk to being ruled by the Jew.

    The Christian inhabitants of the land hold the same view. Last spring no less than 20,000 people held a demonstration in Jerusalem in order to show the administration and the foreign consuls their bitter opposition to this Jewish movement. Following this demonstration, many of the Christians proceeded to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and took a solemn Oath that they would resist with their lives the Jews' efforts to rule them. So far as is known to me, not a single representative of any of the religious communities in Palestine favors the project. The views of the Christians are summed up in the following message, which a highly honored citizen of the country dictated to the writer as he was leaving the port of Jaffa, requesting that it should be made public. ‘The Moslems and Christians welcomed the British occupation because they did not know that their country had been sold to the Jews. The honor of England is in jeopardy. The Christians of the whole world do not know of this treachery, nor did the three hundred million of Moslems know of it. But some day it will be known, because it will surely mean another war...'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Thank you for your post. For the most part, I agree with you. However, we are not done with Fukushima. Not by a long shot.
    I survived TMI (so did everyone I know). They shut it down at the end of Sept. last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    If the IRANIAN COCKROACHES of ALLAH had ANY DOUBTS THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER DEALING WITH FORMER PRES. PUSSYASS MOMMY PANTS ANKLE GRABBER OBAMA, WHO HAD OUR KNOWN ENEMY, SOLEIMANI, AS A GUEST AT THE WHITE HOUSE, this SHOULD CLEAR IT THE FUCK UP FOR THE ISLAMOFASCISTS.

    The BUTCHER SOLEIMANI , WHO HAS THE BLOOD OF THOUSANDS ON HIS HANDS, INCLUDING HUNDREDS OF AMERICANS, the TERRORIST BEHIND THE US EMBASSY ATTACK IN IRAQ...HAS BEEN DEALT WITH DECISIVELY, BY PRES. "FAIL TO HEED MY WARNINGS, AND/OR FUCK WITH THE US, and I WILL KILL YOUR ASS" TRUMP.
    QUICK, DECISIVE ACTION..as OPPOSED TO MINCING, MILQUETOAST, ANKLE GRABBING....
    But it's ok if you just attack our bases with a dozen ballistic missiles. Lets see what your pussy trump does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    A little more effective than Obama’s “red line” and Hillary’s “at this point what difference does it make?”

    Trump just finished saying if they respond they will meet a buzz saw. I'd say a dozen ballistic missiles is a response wouldn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Are we going to embargo ourselves lol?

    Thanks for reminding us how GREAT Trump is for allowing us to be energy independent. Now, after more than 60 years, we can literally HAVE OUR WAY with Iran, and treat her as the BITCH that she is.

    If the price of oil goes through the roof are you actually stupid enough to think it won't happen here as well? If oil goes to $200 a barrel Exxon won't be selling it to us for $60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    At a briefing this morning, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper told Pentagon reporters that the US would "take preemptive action" to protect Americans.

    "The game has changed and we're prepared to do what is necessary," Esper said.

    Yes indeed, it seems.
    lets see now after they have responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    US is now a NET OIL EXPORTER = MAKES A BIG DIFF'...
    It makes no fucking difference at all. oil is a global market and the price of oil is the same for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Trump said if they respond they will meet a buzz saw. Where the fuck is it? A dozen ballistic missiles isn't a response?

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