FACTS TO CONSIDER WHEN ASSESSING TRUMP!

[Nordberg]

More votes means what? TRUMP won more states so nah.

BTW only in your bizarro world would you not see the absolute success of this tv reality show host. I guess you judge a president by food stamp usage.

Trump's TV show was desperate. They changed to bringing in celebrities because it was on the verge of cancellation. If you think a reality TV show makes a good president, then Mark Burnett should get your vote. Are you stupid enough to think that the Apprentice showed presidential qualities? It was acting. It was scripted. It was low level crap.
I still like an intelligent, educated and diplomatic president who can speak well. Those are obviously not what you look for.

[Adolf_Twitler]

Let's try it this way. Hillary was so bad that Donald Trump and unknown and offensive blowhard could be the lesser of two evils. Many myself included pinched our noses and voted for him.

Now unfortunately for you guys he has done amazingly. He has shown that his word is golden and he keeps his promises. He has shown a willingness to tackle issues BOTH parties have kicked down the road at America's children's expense. None had the balls or stomach to address those issues like trump has. So he is now a known commodity a successful one.

Now I cant wait to vote for him. I've never felt this strongly about a candidate or election. I've never seen the amount of typically demonrat voters going for my guy. Cant wait to see the demonrat heads exploding in November.

DUDE! YOU ARE STILL DRUNK ON TRUMP'S VICTORY IN 2016. It was really just a false victory in the first place, an illegitimate win, BECAUSE YOUR FUCKWAD NIMCOMPUTE OF A PRESIDENT CHEATED WITH THE RUSSIANS TO WIN IT. And not only that, Anytime a president wins the delegation process without the POPULAR VOTE- means he is going to be an unpopular president- right off the bat- BECAUSE HE WON WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE VOTING and VOCAL MAJORITY!

The MID-TERMS should have been your wake-up call- BUT YOU WERE JUST STILL TOO DRUNK to understand it.

SO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DRUNKEN FOOL- AND HAVE ANOTHER DRINK!! LOL!



TURN OUT THE LIGHTS=That party is over- TIME FOR YOU TO SOBER UP!

[Frank Apisa]

Cost of living is what you're leaving out. The highest income states usually have the highest taxes. High income also doesn't necessarily mean highest quality of life. California has one of the highest poverty rates of any state, mostly because of just how expensive so much of the state is to live in.

So you really have to look at things as income vs. taxation vs. cost of living. The ideal is to live in a state with a low cost of living, low taxes, and at least decent income. One of the better states for this is Texas.

Ummm...lyou are over thinking this thing. Let me simplify it for you.

If you come from a state that is poor and undereducated...you probably voted for Trump.

If you come from a state that is wealthy and educated...you probably didn't.

It is a probability thing.

[Saudade]

Ummm...lyou are over thinking this thing. Let me simplify it for you.

If you come from a state that is poor and undereducated...you probably voted for Trump.

If you come from a state that is wealthy and educated...you probably didn't.

It is a probability thing.

I'm not overthinking it at all. Just because the average income of a state is higher than another, that doesn't mean that the average person in that state is wealthier than another after figuring in taxes and cost of living.

I'd rather make $100,000 in North Carolina than $1 million in San Francisco. It's far cheaper to live in Charlotte than in San Fran. And even in the rest of California, you'd probably still have to make about $300,000 to $400,000 to have the same buying power as the person with $100,000 in NC.

So, you can say what you want about education level differences, but buying power and quality of life are much more complicated than just looking at raw income figures.

[Frank Apisa]

I'm not overthinking it at all. Just because the average income of a state is higher than another, that doesn't mean that the average person in that state is wealthier than another after figuring in taxes and cost of living.

I'd rather make $100,000 in North Carolina than $1 million in San Francisco. It's far cheaper to live in Charlotte than in San Fran. And even in the rest of California, you'd probably still have to make about $300,000 to $400,000 to have the same buying power as the person with $100,000 in NC.

So, you can say what you want about education level differences, but buying power and quality of life are much more complicated than just looking at raw income figures.

Okay...if you want to exclude the money thing...

...then I guess we can say: The dumber the population...the greater chance that it favors Trump and Republicans.

Actually...that works fine.

[Saudade]

Okay...if you want to exclude the money thing...

...then I guess we can say: The dumber the population...the greater chance that it favors Trump and Republicans.

Actually...that works fine.

That's assuming education correlates with intelligence. You can be highly educated and still have average intelligence. By the same token, you can be poorly educated and still have high intelligence.

Demographics on the 2016 election do say that highly educated whites favored Clinton. Minorities favored Clinton even more, but not all minorities are highly educated. There's also not much evidence of an education metric involved with how minorities voted.

In short, assuming that less educated people are less intelligent is not accurate, and even if we could make that assumption, the support that Clinton received from minorities across the board would negate that correlation with more intelligent people voting for her.

[Frank Apisa]

That's assuming education correlates with intelligence. You can be highly educated and still have average intelligence. By the same token, you can be poorly educated and still have high intelligence.

Demographics on the 2016 election do say that highly educated whites favored Clinton. Minorities favored Clinton even more, but not all minorities are highly educated. There's also not much evidence of an education metric involved with how minorities voted.

In short, assuming that less educated people are less intelligent is not accurate, and even if we could make that assumption, the support that Clinton received from minorities across the board would negate that correlation with more intelligent people voting for her.

Nice try.

[Saudade]

Nice try.

It's more than a try, Frank. The logical premise of your assumptions is deeply flawed.

[Frank Apisa]

It's more than a try, Frank. The logical premise of your assumptions is deeply flawed.

The "logical premise" of my comments (not assumptions) is right on the money. The premise is that the Republicans and Trump get a huge percentage of the vote of states with the lowest education levels.

This is not Earth shattering news, Woko, damn near everyone realizes that to be true.

And frankly, I understand completely why dumber people would vote that way. Combine that with the fact that the American south tends ...it makes sense that they would choose to vote for the political party most associated with current day racism. (The Republicans!)

Hell...when the Democrats were the more racist party...they owned the south.

[Saudade]

The "logical premise" of my comments (not assumptions) is right on the money. The premise is that the Republicans and Trump get a huge percentage of the vote of states with the lowest education levels.

This is not Earth shattering news, Woko, damn near everyone realizes that to be true.

And frankly, I understand completely why dumber people would vote that way. Combine that with the fact that the American south tends ...it makes sense that they would choose to vote for the political party most associated with current day racism. (The Republicans!)

Hell...when the Democrats were the more racist party...they owned the south.

You went from saying that the states with less education voted for Trump to the people voting for Trump were dumber because of less education.

That's where you messed up. If you make the assumption that less education equals less intelligence, then that actually leads to racist assumptions when applied to minorities.

Logically, you can't assume that less educated whites are less intelligent without also assuming that less educated minorities are less intelligent.

Of course, that seems to be what you inadvertently are doing in order to further your partisan thinking.

[Frank Apisa]

You went from saying that the states with less education voted for Trump to the people voting for Trump were dumber because of less education.

That's where you messed up. If you make the assumption that less education equals less intelligence, then that actually leads to racist assumptions when applied to minorities.

Logically, you can't assume that less educated whites are less intelligent without also assuming that less educated minorities are less intelligent.

Of course, that seems to be what you inadvertently are doing in order to further your partisan thinking.

Think what you want.

Eliminate the truly stupid...and the hypocritical Christian evangelicals...and you could hold an American conservative convention in a local Elks Club.

[Saudade]

Think what you want.

Eliminate the truly stupid...and the hypocritical Christian evangelicals...and you could hold an American conservative convention in a local Elks Club.

So this isn't really about education then. You just dislike rural conservatives that are religious.

[NiftyNiblick]

We spend a lot of time discussing what a disgusting piece of shit Trump is.
That's true. That's obvious. But that's not our biggest problem.

63,000,000 equally disgusting pieces of shit voted for him. That's 63,000,000 malignant tumors on our population.

Any decent and respectable Social Democrat or progressive liberal who still has a Trumpanzee "friend" or hasn't completely disowned a Trumpanzee relative is exacerbating the existential threat to our Republic. There is no way that we should allow the notion to exist that a Trump supporter can coexist with morally and mentally healthy people and not be loathed and ostracized. These people, Trumpanzees, are the lowest form of life on the planet. What they did is irredeemable. They are not to be forgiven. They cannot be rehabilitated. They're the most foul kind of garbage imaginable. They deserve noting in the way of respect or accommodation. They don't even deserve to die peacefully.

We decent people were taught to forgive and to give aide and comfort to the lesser among us. That's true. That has not changed.

But Trumpanzees are not to be included in that dynamic. They are a different case altogether. They were unimaginable to the prophets. Our forefathers could not have predicted them. Lower people had not before existed. Lower people were never meant by nature to exist. Trumpanzees are an obscenity that humanity was never meant to endure.

This is the most frightening part of all: the longer we tolerate them, the more we are likely to become more like them. The more likely we are to lose our humanity. Our own instincts to be kind and charitable threaten to be our demise if we think that Trumpanzees also deserve kindness and charity. They deserve nothing but the very worst pains of hell. If you don't realize that, think about it a little harder.

[Daddyo]

Yes - fixed so you could keep slavery and other delights as long as possible and keep democracy well at bay. Heil Trumpf!

Your party was and is the party of racists.

[Daddyo]

Saying, "Jimmy Breslin referred to them as them as the Low IQ states"...is not calling THEM Walmart shoppers, low IQ or deplorables.

In fact, it is a comment about some STATES...not about people.

And mixing that up...does not make you look very intelligent.

I was referring to your side tardo. They did all that I listed which helped get trump elected and will help his reelection.