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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    Where did I make mention of dead matter? So desperate to force words in someone else's mouth while trying to use that as grounds for an argument lmfao ... You mean I let this thread stew for a while only to find such rubbish?!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Belief | Definition of Belief by Merriam-Webster
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belief

    Definition of belief. 1. : a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing. her belief in God. a belief in democracy. I bought the table in the belief that it was an antique. contrary to popular belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    It is either a fact or a science of which science is a process that determines recognition of fact. Once verified or falsified as fact, it's no longer a science.



    edited this in fyi "The harnessing of electricity was a science until harnessing electricity became a successful formula thus a fact we harnessed electricity thus no longer a science but a fact. From there what to do with the electricity developed successful formulas which became fact such as the light bulb, radio, television was no longer a science because it became fact. Each new design for each new tv, radio or light bulb for example became fact through a successful formula. You want to create a new television, the science is making a successful formula and once the formula is successful, it is no longer a science but a fact that from that point that the tv exists."

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    Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Those theories that engineers use to design light bulbs, television sets, or any other gadget do not destroy the theory or convert it into a fact. No theory is ever proven True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    Facts are what verify or falsify belief and theory.
    A fact is not a proof. No theory is ever proven True. It is not possible to falsify a belief.
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    There is no argument when it comes to fact,
    Yes there is. You don't know what 'fact' means. A 'fact' is not a Universal Truth.
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    there is no agreeing or disagreeing with fact,
    The moment someone disagrees with a fact, it is no longer a fact. It is an argument. A fact only remains a fact when all agree.
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    there is only recognition of fact or ignorance towards fact.
    No such thing as ignorance of a fact. A fact only exists when all agree to it.
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    Truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time.
    Truth is not garbage. A fact is not a Universal Truth or a proof.
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    Sharing fact is quite obviously not rambling explanation but thanks for your jealousy statements.
    What we have here is a complete lack of understanding what a 'fact' is, so I'll explain.

    A 'fact' is nothing more than an assumed predicate. We use it like pronouns to shorten speech (and logic). The predicate is simply assumed to be True.

    The moment that predicate is questioned, it is no longer a fact. It becomes an argument. Nothing about any fact makes it a proof of any kind or a Universal Truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    trust

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    proven existence


    religion is NOT FACT BASED


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    All religions are fact based. Those believing in a religion all assume the predicates to that religion to be True. That alone makes them facts.

    In Christianity, for example, it is a fact that Christ exists.
    Outside of Christianity, of course, that is not a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Matter is frozen energy. Heat it and it releases that energy.
    Matter is not energy. Not even hot matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    That makes zero sense.
    That's because you have ZERO brains.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Fact | Definition of Fact by Merriam-Webster
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact

    Fact definition is - something that has actual existence.
    Wrong. First, dictionaries do not define words. People define words. The word 'fact' comes from logic. It is simply an assumed predicate. We use them like pronouns to shorten speech and logic.

    Your statement happens to be a proof, not just a fact, in the world of logic. It is called the Proof of Identity. ?A->A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    Oh really ... (put in working link edited)

    I back my claims on the foundations of primary issues I address with fact. As far as Canada and China goes, look it up for yourself]
    Facts, actuality, certainty, reality, authencity, etc., or whatever semantical game you want to play with the term,
    determined by yourself, as I noted, touching on Sophism, easy game to play

    And again, you are doing it here to promote a false paradigm, the common denominator in nearly all climate denier rhetoric

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    it's a little odd spetch, and I like you, but this feels like the bullshitty wordplay that generally typifies propagandists.

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    just say climate change is a hoax. we don't need to play word games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Wrong. First, dictionaries do not define words. People define words. The word 'fact' comes from logic. It is simply an assumed predicate. We use them like pronouns to shorten speech and logic.

    Your statement happens to be a proof, not just a fact, in the world of logic. It is called the Proof of Identity. ?A->A.
    Here is another one ^, does the same thing over and over again, employs semantical riddles to create a false paradigm, old and lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Facts, actuality, certainty, reality, authencity, etc., or whatever semantical game you want to play with the term,
    determined by yourself, as I noted, touching on Sophism, easy game to play

    And again, you are doing it here to promote a false paradigm, the common denominator in nearly all climate denier rhetoric
    Who is denying climate?

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