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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    He doesn't have to make the Congress do anything; because the onus is on Congress.

    No one is required to prove their innocence.
    Obviously he does not need to do anything if the Senate takes no action. But, when it does, then he has to make them prove guilt and that includes recommending it his client does not submit any information he does not have to.

    However, in a criminal case, they must find the person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That standard obviously does not apply in a Senate trial.

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    Default If Donald Trump is Innocent

    He isn't.

    And everybody knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Maybe you can tell us why, if Trump is so innocent, he cannot release the full transcript of his infamous cal to Ukraine.
    He did. You are still being irrational on this one. You are still locked in paradox. You must clear your paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    An innocent person would be most happy to release the phone call. You know, the one that's hidden away!!
    Irrational. You must clear your paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilly W View Post
    A President isn't a common citizen,it's his responsibility to have full disclosure that he isn't a criminal.
    That he didn't abuse his power as President.
    Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    He isn't.

    And everybody knows it.
    Argument from randU fallacy. You don't get to speak for everybody. You only get to speak for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Argument from randU fallacy. You don't get to speak for everybody. You only get to speak for you.
    There's this thing called "reality". You should look into it someday.

    It's based on another thing you should look into someday, called "common sense".

    Two things you apparently have no familiarity with, Fallacy Boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    If Donald Trump is Innocent

    Why Doesn't he Release the Documents and Allow Witnesses to Testify Under Oath?
    Trump is PRESUMED innocent. The Constitution; READ it.

    Why should he release anything? Has he been charged with high crimes and misdemeanors?

    Are you saying he should be investigated for doing his job? Winning an election? STFU, seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    "If you are innocent then......."


    Famous last words spoken by EVERY totalitarian in history. The people that utter it are no less dictatorial than that they accuse President Trump of

    There is supposed to be a presumption of innocence in this country. That basic tenet applies whether you are a brick layer or the President of the United States. You don't leave your civil liberties at the doorstep for Congress to trample just because you decided to run for President.

    Try different arguments. If what Trump did was so illegal and so obvious, you wouldn't need him to help you convict him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    When you are innocent- YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE!
    When you are innocent you do not have to prove it.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    How many innocent people are sitting in jail, just because they didn't have to prove their innocence? IDIOT!!
    Their guilt had been PROVEN in front of a jury of their peers. What crime do you claim Trump has committed?

    So far, all we get from idiots like you are flailing, lying, hyperbole and innuendo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilly W View Post
    You've become a full fledged Trump supporter and apologist
    What does Trump need apologists for? Why is supporting Trump a bad thing?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilly W View Post
    Cool!I'm a Marxist
    Marxist = Moron. Yay you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Their guilt had been PROVEN in front of a jury of their peers. What crime do you claim Trump has committed?

    So far, all we get from idiots like you are flailing, lying, hyperbole and innuendo.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...-crimes-086096

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    The impeachment report didn't prove any crimes were committed. What crimes has he been charged with?

    If the report contained crimes , then why weren't they named in the impeachment?

    You still don't comprehend you're an idiot do you?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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