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    Why Doesn't he Release the Documents and Allow Witnesses to Testify Under Oath?

    Donald Supporters,
    Can you help me out with something? I was wondering if you could explain to me why Donald and his staff steadfastly refused to release any and all relevant documents and refused to allow key witnesses to testify at Donald's impeachment hearings in the House and will now do the same for the Senate trial.
    Isn't that kind of strange, considering, as we all know, how incredibly and amazingly innocent he is and how perfect his shake-down--as some would call it-- call to the Ukrainian leader was? Well, that's a strange sort of innocent, if you ask me. Shouldn't Donald, if he is incredibly and amazingly innocent and has done nothing wrong, want to prove his innocence by allowing complete transparency? Yet it's the furthest thing from transparency that could be imagined. Isn't that odd?
    And isn't it peculiar that Moscow Mitch (as some cynical liberal-bastard critics might call him) has already said that an innocent verdict in the Senate is a foregone conclusion and that, by the way, he's working closely with the White House to coordinate a common defense strategy? And this despite that Mitch swore an oath to defend the Constitution and to be an impartial juror?
    Well, that strikes me as strange. Really, really strange. How about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    Why Doesn't he Release the Documents and Allow Witnesses to Testify Under Oath?

    Donald Supporters,
    Can you help me out with something? I was wondering if you could explain to me why Donald and his staff steadfastly refused to release any and all relevant documents and refused to allow key witnesses to testify at Donald's impeachment hearings in the House and will now do the same for the Senate trial.
    Isn't that kind of strange, considering, as we all know, how incredibly and amazingly innocent he is and how perfect his shake-down--as some would call it-- call to the Ukrainian leader was? Well, that's a strange sort of innocent, if you ask me. Shouldn't Donald, if he is incredibly and amazingly innocent and has done nothing wrong, want to prove his innocence by allowing complete transparency? Yet it's the furthest thing from transparency that could be imagined. Isn't that odd?
    And isn't it peculiar that Moscow Mitch (as some cynical liberal-bastard critics might call him) has already said that an innocent verdict in the Senate is a foregone conclusion and that, by the way, he's working closely with the White House to coordinate a common defense strategy? And this despite that Mitch swore an oath to defend the Constitution and to be an impartial juror?
    Well, that strikes me as strange. Really, really strange. How about you?
    You can add to that the complete transcript of the infamous call to the President of Ukraine has never been released, as has the phone calls of the VP to Ukraine.

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    "If you are innocent then......."


    Famous last words spoken by EVERY totalitarian in history. The people that utter it are no less dictatorial than that they accuse President Trump of

    There is supposed to be a presumption of innocence in this country. That basic tenet applies whether you are a brick layer or the President of the United States. You don't leave your civil liberties at the doorstep for Congress to trample just because you decided to run for President.

    Try different arguments. If what Trump did was so illegal and so obvious, you wouldn't need him to help you convict him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    "If you are innocent then......."


    Famous last words spoken by EVERY totalitarian in history.
    I knew the first Trumpcuck to reply to this was going to use the argument that this is a Stalinist investigation of Saint Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I knew the first Trumpcuck to reply to this was going to use the argument that this is a Stalinist investigation of Saint Trump.
    Did I say it was a Stalinist investigation? I used the word totalitarian. Stalinists weren't the only totalitarians. But, if you support totalitarianism and fascism that is your call. If you hate orange mad enough, anything goes right puddin pop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Did I say it was a Stalinist investigation? I used the word totalitarian. Stalinists weren't the only totalitarians. But, if you support totalitarianism and fascism that is your call. If you hate orange mad enough, anything goes right puddin pop?
    I am sure that you will agree that any investigation of Donals Trump is illegal, immoral, unethical and deceitful! He must be allowed to do whatever he wants at anytime he wants, laws do not matter to him or you.

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    Happy everything Walter Wilson,

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    Why Doesn't he Release the Documents and Allow Witnesses to Testify Under Oath?

    Donald Supporters,
    Can you help me out with something? I was wondering if you could explain to me why Donald and his staff steadfastly refused to release any and all relevant documents and refused to allow key witnesses to testify at Donald's impeachment hearings in the House and will now do the same for the Senate trial.
    Isn't that kind of strange, considering, as we all know, how incredibly and amazingly innocent he is and how perfect his shake-down--as some would call it-- call to the Ukrainian leader was? Well, that's a strange sort of innocent, if you ask me. Shouldn't Donald, if he is incredibly and amazingly innocent and has done nothing wrong, want to prove his innocence by allowing complete transparency? Yet it's the furthest thing from transparency that could be imagined. Isn't that odd?
    And isn't it peculiar that Moscow Mitch (as some cynical liberal-bastard critics might call him) has already said that an innocent verdict in the Senate is a foregone conclusion and that, by the way, he's working closely with the White House to coordinate a common defense strategy? And this despite that Mitch swore an oath to defend the Constitution and to be an impartial juror?
    Well, that strikes me as strange. Really, really strange. How about you?
    Yes, very strange indeed.

    Trump* is so angry with the impeachment because it is forcing the truth he wants to ignore directly into his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    I am sure that you will agree that any investigation of Donals Trump is illegal, immoral, unethical and deceitful! He must be allowed to do whatever he wants at anytime he wants, laws do not matter to him or you.
    No I would not agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    No I would not agree
    Not once in 3+ years have you ever complained about anything Trump has said or done. Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Not once in 3+ years have you ever complained about anything Trump has said or done. Never.
    not true

    why do you lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    not true

    why do you lie?
    prove me wrong, honey pot. What has Trump done that you have publicly disagreed with or opposed? Your talk is cheap, time to put up!

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    Rightys actually claim this is the most transparent admin in history. He is covering up all communications and ordering personnel to ignore subpoenas and court orders. That is part of his open admin? Of course not having yearly press conferences is another demonstration of openness. Add in the end of daily pressers and you can see Trump is a man with a lot to hide and he is very actively hiding it.
    Hillary testified under oath. Trump lied and said he would do that too. Nixon and Clinton provided all that was asked. Bill testified under oath. Trump .in the name of openness and fairness, supplied nothing and demanded everyone else stonewall too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    prove me wrong, honey pot. What has Trump done that you have publicly disagreed with or opposed? Your talk is cheap, time to put up!
    He nominated John Bolton
    He fired Michael Flynn
    Didn’t build wall fast enough
    Didn’t stop muslimes from coming in
    Tax cut wasn’t big enough
    Tried too hard to work with the democrat party
    Campaigned for Romney

    There you have it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Did I say it was a Stalinist investigation? I used the word totalitarian. Stalinists weren't the only totalitarians. But, if you support totalitarianism and fascism that is your call. If you hate orange mad enough, anything goes right puddin pop?
    Wow, talking about splitting hairs. "Did I say it was a Stalinist investigation? I used the word totalitarian."

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Wow, talking about splitting hairs. "Did I say it was a Stalinist investigation? I used the word totalitarian."
    Not at all. I can explain things to you but I can’t make you understand them

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