How exactly did Trump interfere or try to interfere in our Elections?

[StoneByStone]

That's not exactly true. At all.

There was a coalition of NATO countries that were all saying this Ukrainian investigator wasn't doing his job. That's why Biden called for him to get fired. The investigator wasn't investigating Burisma.
This is one of the reasons Trump is so dangerous. He constantly lies, often about conspiracy theories, and the other Republicans don't have the balls to call him out. They either ignore the lies or go along with them. We're getting to the point where truth doesn't matter.

[Darth Omar]

Because Trump didn't care about an actual investigation, he just wanted the announcement of an investigation. This means he knew that Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong, but that simply announcing an investigation would hurt Joe Biden in the election. Essentially, he was asking for a phony investigation into a non-crime.

Now if you like Trump because of his policies, that's understandable. But if you value democratic elections, then you shouldn't want any president using the power of the office to kneecap any political opponent. Imagine if this becomes normalized and then a liberal Democrat does it. We should take a stand by voting Trump out, thus saying that NO president is allowed to use the office this way.

Why stop with phony investigations of non-crimes, now, after the past three years lol?

Btw, when was Hunter Biden ever investigated?

[reagansghost]

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may be "fine" with the idea of never holding a Senate trial after the impeachment of Donald Trump, but you know who isn't—Donald Trump. Trump is just certain that a circus-like trial with lots of conspiracy-laced testimony will do wonders for him, restoring him to his former glory before he was besmirched by the stain of impeachment.

And while McConnell has been trying to tamp down expectations for a trial of any heft or meaning, Trump's external allies (likely reached by cell) have been egging him on, insisting that calling witnesses such as Hunter Biden and House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff will really play to his strengths.

“We don’t want a quick technical acquittal but complete exoneration,” one of Trump's outside advisers told Politico. Because hurling down a rabbit hole of baseless conspiracy theories about Hunter Biden is where Trump's holy grail of total exoneration lies.

What McConnell knows is that there's no way he has the 51 votes he needs to travel down that rabbit hole, no matter how much Trump wants it. And while McConnell is a brazen breaker of norms himself, he's also not a complete idiot—he knows Trump is so blatantly guilty of the charges leveled against him that the less the American people chew it over, the better.

Major Republican donor Dan Eberhart called the widening gulf between the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue a "family feud.”

“I hope the White House agrees with us on bringing this thing to a conclusion, not dragging it out,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune of South Dakota.

But that's not exactly where Trump appears to be with things. As Trump seethed over his impeachment and the delay of his trial Thursday night, he tweeted, "The reason the Democrats don’t want to submit the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate is that they don’t want corrupt politician Adam Shifty Schiff to testify under oath, nor do they want the Whistleblower, the missing second Whistleblower, the informer, the Bidens, to testify!"

wow!

[Minister of Truth]

There was a coalition of NATO countries that were all saying this Ukrainian investigator wasn't doing his job. That's why Biden called for him to get fired. The investigator wasn't investigating Burisma.
This is one of the reasons Trump is so dangerous. He constantly lies, often about conspiracy theories, and the other Republicans don't have the balls to call him out. They either ignore the lies or go along with them. We're getting to the point where truth doesn't matter.

Quid Pro Joe was quite clear when he talked about getting the guy fired.

[StoneByStone]

Why stop with phony investigations of non-crimes, now, after the past three years lol?

Bribery is a crime.

Btw, when was Hunter Biden ever investigated?

He wasn't. No matter how many times the Trumpcucks say that Burisma was under investigation until Joe Biden got the investigator fired, that's not what happened. Burisma and Hunter were not being investigated.

[StoneByStone]

Quid Pro Joe was quite clear when he talked about getting the guy fired.

And Biden never said he got him fired because his son or his place of work was being investigated.

[Nordberg]

Quid Pro Joe was quite clear when he talked about getting the guy fired.

Oh so now tell us what he was getting by removing a corrupt prosecutor from loan guarantees. That move was applauded by allies and anyone involved in the loans. Biden got zip. Biden would have to get something in return, like Trump getting Zelensky to announce an investigation into his highest-rated competitor in 2020. Can you understand what quid pro quo is?

[Minister of Truth]

Oh so now tell us what he was getting by removing a corrupt prosecutor from loan guarantees. That move was applauded by allies and anyone involved in the loans. Biden got zip. Biden would have to get something in return, like Trump getting Zelensky to announce an investigation into his highest-rated competitor in 2020. Can you understand what quid pro quo is?

First, what he got was an albatross around his neck that may not have been worth taking the prosecutor down. The quid pro quo for Quid Pro Joe was releasing aid in exchange for getting the prosecutor fired.

[Darth Omar]

Bribery is a crime.



He wasn't. No matter how many times the Trumpcucks say that Burisma was under investigation until Joe Biden got the investigator fired, that's not what happened. Burisma and Hunter were not being investigated.

So how do we know he’s clean?

[StoneByStone]

So how do we know he’s clean?

There's no evidence that he isn't. Ukraine isn't a Communist country anymore, they don't put people in jail just in case.

[Earl]

The whiney lying democrats in the house keep making this claim that Trump interfered in our Elections.

What did he do?

Hillary used an ex foreign spy to create a bogus dossier that democrat FBI agents used to go to the FISA court. And democrats say that is okay, yet a sitting President can't ask for an investigation into POSSIBLE corruption because the person just happens to be running for office.

How any Democrat claim to be an honest American and support such an evil witch hunt, is shocking. You democrats have sunk lower than I ever imagined. Do you idiots even realize you're giving Trump higher ratings because of your cheap and dishonest impeachment?

Indeed.

[Darth Omar]

There's no evidence that he isn't. Ukraine isn't a Communist country anymore, they don't put people in jail just in case.

There’s certainly evidence of conflict of interest given that his dad was VP *while looking over Ukraine* under Obama.

‘But nobody told old Joe it was a conflict of interest’ lol. You don’t really believe that, do you?

[Port Tack]

The whiney lying democrats in the house keep making this claim that Trump interfered in our Elections.

What did he do?

Hillary used an ex foreign spy to create a bogus dossier that democrat FBI agents used to go to the FISA court. And democrats say that is okay, yet a sitting President can't ask for an investigation into POSSIBLE corruption because the person just happens to be running for office.

How any Democrat claim to be an honest American and support such an evil witch hunt, is shocking. You democrats have sunk lower than I ever imagined. Do you idiots even realize you're giving Trump higher ratings because of your cheap and dishonest impeachment?

The house of Reps has every right to investigate the president and to subpoena the president for documents. The president does not have the right defy a subpoena, that is a crime. What the fuck good is a subpoena if the president can just say fuck you your investigation is a hoax and I will not comply? Even republicans have enough sense to know Trump did not give two shits about corruption in the Ukraine, he just wanted to see an investigation into Biden who they all know did nothing wrong.

[cancel2 2022]

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may be "fine" with the idea of never holding a Senate trial after the impeachment of Donald Trump, but you know who isn't—Donald Trump. Trump is just certain that a circus-like trial with lots of conspiracy-laced testimony will do wonders for him, restoring him to his former glory before he was besmirched by the stain of impeachment.

And while McConnell has been trying to tamp down expectations for a trial of any heft or meaning, Trump's external allies (likely reached by cell) have been egging him on, insisting that calling witnesses such as Hunter Biden and House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff will really play to his strengths.

“We don’t want a quick technical acquittal but complete exoneration,” one of Trump's outside advisers told Politico. Because hurling down a rabbit hole of baseless conspiracy theories about Hunter Biden is where Trump's holy grail of total exoneration lies.

What McConnell knows is that there's no way he has the 51 votes he needs to travel down that rabbit hole, no matter how much Trump wants it. And while McConnell is a brazen breaker of norms himself, he's also not a complete idiot—he knows Trump is so blatantly guilty of the charges leveled against him that the less the American people chew it over, the better.

Major Republican donor Dan Eberhart called the widening gulf between the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue a "family feud.”

“I hope the White House agrees with us on bringing this thing to a conclusion, not dragging it out,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune of South Dakota.

But that's not exactly where Trump appears to be with things. As Trump seethed over his impeachment and the delay of his trial Thursday night, he tweeted, "The reason the Democrats don’t want to submit the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate is that they don’t want corrupt politician Adam Shifty Schiff to testify under oath, nor do they want the Whistleblower, the missing second Whistleblower, the informer, the Bidens, to testify!"

wow!

Reagan's Arsewipe is so embarrassed by Daily Kos that he won't even provide a link, fuck him!!

[Callinectes]

Did you find anything in this dossier that was wrong, incorrect or a lie?

That dossier was used to justify a FISA surveillance warrant on Carter Page. Page was working for the CIA(against the russians, in fact)and they told the FBI to leave him alone, they did not. That was wrong, and incorrect...and seeing as to how that would have been exculpatory, a lie to the FISA court