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    Default Americans need to be educated as to the how the Russian mafia is operating

    The Russian Mafia and organised crime: how can this global force be tamed?

    Big business is organised crime. And, given that no big business in Russia can operate without government approval (just ask the numerous exiles who left Russia in 2003 after the arrest of Mikhail Khodorkovsky) it follows that the state and organised crime are inextricably linked.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr...orce-be-tamed/
    Trump’s ties to the Russian mafia go back 3 decades
    Journalist Craig Unger talks Russia, Trump, and “one of the greatest intelligence operations in history.”


    “Dear friends, respected colleagues!” Nikonov said. “Three minutes ago, Hillary Clinton admitted her defeat in US presidential elections, and a second ago Trump started his speech as an elected president of the United States of America, and I congratulate you on this.”

    Nikonov is a leader in the pro-Putin United Russia Party and, incidentally, the grandson of Vyacheslav Molotov — after whom the “Molotov cocktail” was named. His announcement that day was a clear signal that Trump’s victory was, in fact, a victory for Putin’s Russia.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/...es-craig-unger
    Russian Mafia Invades California

    Russian gangsters - many of whom entered the United States as "refugees" -- have spread their influence beyond the East Coast and are becoming a major criminal presence in California, according to State Attorney General Dan Lungren. The California Department of Justice Bureau of Investigation recently released a report which provides an overview of the scope of Russian organized crime in the United States.

    The California Attorney General's Office report notes that during the 1970s and 1980s, under the guise of the Russian-Jewish refugee program, "the KGB emptied their prisons of hard-core criminals, much like Cuban dictator Fidel Castro did during the Mariel boatlift of 1980." The 1989 Lautenberg Amendment expanded refugee admissions from the Soviet Union to up to 50,000 per year. This was followed, in 1991, by provisions for legal immigration from the now independent states of the former USSR.

    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/art...icle_580.shtml
    There are tons of articles and books on the subject and I have personally seen up close in Brooklyn NY, the absolute infiltration of every place and business where corruption can take hold and has taken hold by Russians.

    The Russian mob and the Kremlin exist because of one another and Trump and Manafort have been very willing conduits.

    The people need to be educated as to how the Russkie mob has burrowed its way like termites into the USA's businesses and government and has corrupted so many to the detriment of the people and democracy.
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    It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.

    This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

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    Thank you. Good info here.
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    There is a widespread rumor that Donald Trump turned to the Russian mafia, either knowingly or through front agents, for loans after he was totally bankrupted, way in over his head in casinos. The big US banks bailed him out only because that cut their losses. After that, Trump could not get a loan in the USA. His credit was shot. Then Trump staged a huge come-back on borrowed money. Where did that money come from? Nobody knows. Trump won't say. It is theorized that Russian oligarchs loaned him the money.

    Well of course, nobody gets to be super-rich in Russia without being corrupt. That is a payola economy.

    It is theorized that the Russian mafia has it's hooks into Donald Trump.
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    This is fascinating. I am reading the first link. I will read them all.

    I like learning about what's going on.

    I had no idea how extensive this is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    This is fascinating. I am reading the first link. I will read them all.

    I like learning about what's going on.

    I had no idea how extensive this is.
    I posted this audio yesterday. Two journalists who have extensive knowledge on the subject.

    We discuss the grave threat this alliance poses to U.S. security, the need for the House to continue holding hearings, and what steps folks should take to fend off this attempted annihilation of our democracy by a transnational crime syndicate.

    https://gaslitnation.libsyn.com/chri...d-ivanka-trump
    These two and others were sounding the alarm and explain how the FBI dropped the ball. Another terribly disturbing but most informative narrative by these amazing journalists...

    Mafia State U.S.A.

    For the entire duration of the Trump-Russia crime spree, the people who spoke out hardest – and paid the worst price – have been women. That trend continued this week with the testimony of national security advisor Fiona Hill, who reconfirmed what Gaslit Nation already knew (that Putin had been interested in Trump for ages) and paid the price with death threats.

    https://gaslitnation.libsyn.com/mafia-state-usa
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    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

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    It's very hard to believe that Donald Trump is not involved with TNOC.
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    Other than Anna Kournakova is there a single thing the Communist Russians have done positive for the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    There are tons of articles and books on the subject and I have personally seen up close in Brooklyn NY, the absolute infiltration of every place and business where corruption can take hold and has taken hold by Russians.

    The Russian mob and the Kremlin exist because of one another and Trump and Manafort have been very willing conduits.

    The people need to be educated as to how the Russkie mob has burrowed its way like termites into the USA's businesses and government and has corrupted so many to the detriment of the people and democracy.
    like you care about american sovereignty. you're just on china cock all day.

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    Just a swarthier seamier version of the Italian one I would guess.

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    Wow. Looks like Trump fans were right. There IS a deep state. The only part they got wrong was that it exists not in the USA but in Russia:

    "Russian TNOC has other features which are less familiar to western law enforcement agencies operating in countries where the rule of law is paramount.

    It has connections. There are close, almost seamless, links with the ‘deep state’ kleptocracy of government, parliament, civil service, law enforcement and business at all levels, as well as the military and, above all, the security services."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    There are tons of articles and books on the subject and I have personally seen up close in Brooklyn NY, the absolute infiltration of every place and business where corruption can take hold and has taken hold by Russians.

    The Russian mob and the Kremlin exist because of one another and Trump and Manafort have been very willing conduits.

    The people need to be educated as to how the Russkie mob has burrowed its way like termites into the USA's businesses and government and has corrupted so many to the detriment of the people and democracy.
    There are criminal elements in every immigrant and native born population group.

    99 percent of Russians are garden-variety humans trying to live normal lives. You would be surprised how often I am asked, even if half jokingly, if I know anyone in the Russian mob.

    In part I blame Hollywood which, if they ever portray Russians, they are invariably mobsters, soulless and bloodthirsty communists, war criminals, or nit-witted drunkards

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    This is fascinating. I am reading the first link. I will read them all.

    I like learning about what's going on.

    I had no idea how extensive this is.
    The Russian Mafia is news to you ?

    Keep reading. This is one sided and dramatically inaccurate.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The Russian Mafia is news to you ?

    Keep reading. This is one sided and dramatically inaccurate.
    I already new about it, am interested to learn more. If you dispute any of this, please show why you believe it to be in error?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There is a widespread rumor that Donald Trump turned to the Russian mafia, either knowingly or through front agents, for loans after he was totally bankrupted, way in over his head in casinos. The big US banks bailed him out only because that cut their losses. After that, Trump could not get a loan in the USA. His credit was shot. Then Trump staged a huge come-back on borrowed money. Where did that money come from? Nobody knows. Trump won't say. It is theorized that Russian oligarchs loaned him the money.




    Well of course, nobody gets to be super-rich in Russia without being corrupt. That is a payola economy.

    It is theorized that the Russian mafia has it's hooks into Donald Trump.
    its not RUMOR

    there are facts that show it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The Russian Mafia is news to you ?

    Keep reading. This is one sided and dramatically inaccurate.
    oh shut the fuck up

    OR

    PRODUCE facts to back your Russian propaganda

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