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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    People who are innocent and have nothing to hide- ARE HAPPY TO submit WITNESSES, Documents, or tax returns to prove their innocence!
    9 Times The Obama Administration Fought Subpoenas or Blocked Officials from Testifying Before Congress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    People who are guilty and have things to hide, tamper with witnesses, threaten witnesses, insult witnesses, refuse to allow witnesses, refuse to send the documents that were asked for by the court, refuse to show their taxes, call the investigation a witch hunt, insult the prosecutors, insult the legal processes, play what-about-isms, accuse and blame others for their own wrong-doing, stall the courts, distract, stall the legal processes- INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE IN COURT!
    Obama was the king of all of this.

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    So Obama is president? How did his impeachment go? I seemed to have missed it. You do know that Nixon gave his papers up. He was under huge pressure and the courts forced him to, but he did. Do you know that Clinton testified under oath? Probably not, you don't get facts in your bunker. Trump not only did not testify, under oath or not under oath, but ordered every person in and out of his administration to ignore subpoenas and court orders? Is that what Clinton did? Is it was Nixon did? Nope, they actually recognized the duties of the House and Senate. Trump recognizes nothing but his Imperial Powers. You seem to agree that Trump is above the laws and history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    So Obama is president?
    Obama has to be president for your hilariously false lie about "nobody" ever ignoring subpoenas to be untrue? Nice logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    How did his impeachment go?
    The only way Obama could have obstructed subpoenas is if he were impeached? Nice logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You do know that Nixon gave his papers up.
    And?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He was under huge pressure and the courts forced him to, but he did.
    Right, THE COURTS forced him to...the same people Trump is going to...that Democrats are falsely accusing him of obstruction for going to.

    Thanks for making my case for me, imbecile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you know that Clinton testified under oath?
    And?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Probably not, you don't get facts in your bunker.
    Say the people accusing President Trump of being a secret Russian agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump not only did not testify, under oath or not under oath,
    And?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    but ordered every person in and out of his administration to ignore subpoenas and court orders?
    And?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Is that what Clinton did? Is it was Nixon did?
    Does Nixon and Clinton doing something make it the law?

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    Nope, they actually recognized the duties of the House and Senate.
    Which do not include fraudulent witch hunts and coup attempts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump recognizes nothing but his Imperial Powers.
    Sounds like you "don't get facts in your bunker."

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You seem to agree that Trump is above the laws and history.
    You seem ignorant of laws and history.

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    The left is always learning how little power they actually have. Comical really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    People who are innocent and have nothing to hide- ARE HAPPY TO submit WITNESSES, Documents, or tax returns to prove their innocence!

    People who are guilty and have things to hide, tamper with witnesses, threaten witnesses, insult witnesses, refuse to allow witnesses, refuse to send the documents that were asked for by the court, refuse to show their taxes, call the investigation a witch hunt, insult the prosecutors, insult the legal processes, play what-about-isms, accuse and blame others for their own wrong-doing, stall the courts, distract, stall the legal processes- INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE IN COURT!

    Donald Trump's actions do not demonstrate a man who is innocent- Donald Trump's actions all point to him being guilty and trying to cover up his crimes.

    AND EVEN THE 5th Graders KNOW AND ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THIS!

    So Donald Trump and his band of idiots who are making excuses for him are not even as smart as an average 5th grader!
    Since you have nothing to hide; please post your tax returns and financial records, for the last 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    People who are innocent and have nothing to hide- ARE HAPPY TO submit WITNESSES, Documents, or tax returns to prove their innocence!

    People who are guilty and have things to hide, tamper with witnesses, threaten witnesses, insult witnesses, refuse to allow witnesses, refuse to send the documents that were asked for by the court, refuse to show their taxes, call the investigation a witch hunt, insult the prosecutors, insult the legal processes, play what-about-isms, accuse and blame others for their own wrong-doing, stall the courts, distract, stall the legal processes- INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE IN COURT!

    Donald Trump's actions do not demonstrate a man who is innocent- Donald Trump's actions all point to him being guilty and trying to cover up his crimes.

    AND EVEN THE 5th Graders KNOW AND ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THIS!

    So Donald Trump and his band of idiots who are making excuses for him are not even as smart as an average 5th grader!
    That is some Mumbo jumbo you're working there. Generally the burden of proof is always on the person who brings the claim in a dispute.
    The person that doesn't carry the burden carries the benefit of assumption of being correct. Since Trump hasn't been found guilty of any wrongdoing, there is no need for him to prove his innocence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    People who are innocent and have nothing to hide- ARE HAPPY TO submit WITNESSES, Documents, or tax returns to prove their innocence!

    People who are guilty and have things to hide, tamper with witnesses, threaten witnesses, insult witnesses, refuse to allow witnesses, refuse to send the documents that were asked for by the court, refuse to show their taxes, call the investigation a witch hunt, insult the prosecutors, insult the legal processes, play what-about-isms, accuse and blame others for their own wrong-doing, stall the courts, distract, stall the legal processes- INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE IN COURT!

    Donald Trump's actions do not demonstrate a man who is innocent- Donald Trump's actions all point to him being guilty and trying to cover up his crimes.

    AND EVEN THE 5th Graders KNOW AND ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THIS!

    So Donald Trump and his band of idiots who are making excuses for him are not even as smart as an average 5th grader!
    You guys always cry about how Trump is a dictator and is turning us into a banana republic and then you say things like “they should have no problem proving their innocence”

    Do you have any idea how totalitarian and statist that is? That is straight oughta USSR and China

    But I guess if you hate Orange Man bad enough you can suspend that pesky notion of innocent until proven guilty right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    You guys always cry about how Trump is a dictator and is turning us into a banana republic and then you say things like “they should have no problem proving their innocence”

    Do you have any idea how totalitarian and statist that is? That is straight oughta USSR and China

    But I guess if you hate Orange Man bad enough you can suspend that pesky notion of innocent until proven guilty right?
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    You hypocrites always cry foul when the shoe is on the other foot.

    None of the investigations you are referring to had anything to do with the behaviors or personal decisions made by Obama. Obama was never the target of any investigation, and certainly was never the target of an impeachment inquiry.

    But thanks for bringing this all up after all of the crying by you Trumptards that DOnald Trump has been the target of some kind of investigations since he decided to cheat in the 2016 election and now already got caught red handed cheating again in the 2020 election by the man old Democrats. HILARIOUS!

    Because you are admitting that there were 9 Republican led politically motivated investigations that were targeting other officials in the Obama administration, and none of them ended up proving any wrong doing by OBAMA or his cabinet members BTW. In fact, just turned out to be witch hunts!

    Did Obama claim some executive privileges, yes. Did Obama eventually end up cooperating in full with every one of the investigations- YES!

    Just more examples of how you Republicans and Trumptards always try to play the victim of the very same things you accuse others of doing- and the things that the Republicans started in the first place.

    So you really really do enjoy investigations of Democrat presidents or their administrations, BUT SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN TRUMP IS BEING INVESTIGATED?

    HYPOCRITE ALERT! CRYBABY ALERT! LOL! NO SURPRISE HERE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    So Obama is president? How did his impeachment go? I seemed to have missed it. You do know that Nixon gave his papers up. He was under huge pressure and the courts forced him to, but he did. Do you know that Clinton testified under oath? Probably not, you don't get facts in your bunker. Trump not only did not testify, under oath or not under oath, but ordered every person in and out of his administration to ignore subpoenas and court orders? Is that what Clinton did? Is it was Nixon did? Nope, they actually recognized the duties of the House and Senate. Trump recognizes nothing but his Imperial Powers. You seem to agree that Trump is above the laws and history.
    Every time you and those like you post, I could not be more for the electoral college if I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    translation:I am russo bot hole so I see nothing my programmer doesnt program me with
    So you admit you are a Russian bot that licks Putin's ball sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    You guys always cry about how Trump is a dictator and is turning us into a banana republic and then you say things like “they should have no problem proving their innocence”

    Do you have any idea how totalitarian and statist that is? That is straight oughta USSR and China

    But I guess if you hate Orange Man bad enough you can suspend that pesky notion of innocent until proven guilty right?
    Dude, even in a card game, everyone has to eventually show their cards.

    Here you and Donnie go trying to say, "WE WIN" without showing your cards.

    Well, that don't work in Old Maids, it don't work in Gin Rummy, and it's not going to work in an impeachment trial!

    It's way past time for you and Donnie to lay your cards on the table face up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    You hypocrites always cry foul when the shoe is on the other foot.
    Precisely what only Democrats do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    None of the investigations you are referring to had anything to do with the behaviors or personal decisions made by Obama.
    Nobody said he was. Someone's sensitive about their corrupt little ACORN tyrant being held to the same standard as everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Obama was never the target of any investigation, and certainly was never the target of an impeachment inquiry.
    He weaponized and politicized law enforcement for partisan gain. That's what this entire debunked collusion hoax is about. That's what the IG report confirmed. OF COURSE the partisan hacks he put in power aren't going to investigate him. Stacking the deck with people who falsely exonerate Democrats while framing Republicans was the whole point. How hilarious that you think him being a far more corrupt, power-abusing president than anyone in our lifetime somehow vindicates him.



    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    But thanks for bringing this all up after all of the crying by you Trumptards that DOnald Trump has been the target of some kind of investigations since he decided to cheat in the 2016 election and now cheating already in the 2020 election.
    The collusion hoax is thoroughly debunked at this point. Repeating the provably false claims from that hoax (invalid logic known as the 'ad nauseum' fallacy) in no way magically transforms it from debunked to legitimate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Because you are admitting that there were 9 Republican led politically motivated investigations that were targeting other officials in the Obama administration, and none of themended up proving any wrong doing by OBAMA or his cabinet members.
    Destroying evidence (as with Hillary 'Bleachbit and Hammers' Clinton), pleading the 5th to avoid self-incrimination (as with Lois Lerner), and silencing whistleblowers (as with Benghazi) will DO that. Especially when you also weaponize and politicize law enforcement for partisan gain, as Obama did (see three years straight of manufactured partisan hoaxes).

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Did Obama claim some executive privileges, yes.
    On an unprecedented scale, yes.

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    Did Obama eventually end up cooperating in full with every one of the investigations- YES!
    Of course not. He obstructed until the investigation could be dismissed as "old." A standard Democrat tactic. Perfected to an art form by Hillary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Just more examples of how you Republicans and Trumtards...
    If you're going to smear people as stupid for being more informed and intelligent than you, you should at least SPELL the word you're insulting them with correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    always try to play the victim of the very same things you accuse others of doing- and the things that the Republicans started in the first place.
    Now even the "accuse your opponent of what only you are actually doing" tactic is falsely projected onto Democrat opponents.

    New hypocrisy level achieved: 1000.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    So you really really do enjoy investigations of Democrat presidents or their administrations, BUT SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN TRUMP IS BEING INVESTIGATED?
    As the IG report shows, Trump was framed. OF COURSE we dont support fake investigations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    HYPOCRITE ALERT! CRYBABY ALERT! LOL! NO SURPRISE HERE?
    Empty posturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Translation: I got nothing, you kicked my ass
    I sure did kick your ass and it drove your head up Putin's ass 6 more inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Chicken View Post
    That is some Mumbo jumbo you're working there. Generally the burden of proof is always on the person who brings the claim in a dispute.
    The person that doesn't carry the burden carries the benefit of assumption of being correct. Since Trump hasn't been found guilty of any wrongdoing, there is no need for him to prove his innocence
    The House has laid all of their cards on the table.

    Now it's time Donnie either show us his cards or fold!

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