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    Default The Supreme Court just blew up the Obstruction of Congress charge.

    There Supreme court just blew up the impeachments Obstruction of Congress case today. How you say? They agreed to review the validity of the subpoena that Congress gave Trump over his financial records. That means the way to resolve deputes between Congress and the Executive branch about Congressional subpoena's should be resolved in the court. Congress says Trump obstructed Congress when he claimed executive privilege but the court just proved that subpoena needs to be upheld by the court before Trump has to obey it.

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    Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
    We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
    These are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
    We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
    These are not the same thing.
    You are incorrect

    There are three separate but equal branches. Congress does not have unlimited power

    Do you really want a Republican House to be able to to subpoena a Democrat president at will? My guess is no

    There is no law requiring Trump to turn over his tax returns. Congress has no need to see them. They just want to harass the President

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastLane View Post
    There Supreme court just blew up the impeachments Obstruction of Congress case today. How you say? They agreed to review the validity of the subpoena that Congress gave Trump over his financial records. That means the way to resolve deputes between Congress and the Executive branch about Congressional subpoena's should be resolved in the court. Congress says Trump obstructed Congress when he claimed executive privilege but the court just proved that subpoena needs to be upheld by the court before Trump has to obey it.
    LMAO. The tax returns have nothing to do with the impeachment. Stop listening to Hannity
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    I was wondering when the racist right wing court of rapists and drunkards would make its demonic entrance to subvert the will of all
    the decent people in this country. Guess it starts now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
    We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
    These are not the same thing.
    Trump is simply saying he has the same *right* to take his appeal before a judge as Eric Holder had.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Trump is simply saying he has the same *right* to take his appeal before a judge as Eric Holder had.
    Leftists believe all they wish to know about Trump is in his returns

    Logic dictates that if there was something wrong with Trumps taxes the state of NY or the IRS would have found it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastLane View Post
    There Supreme court just blew up the impeachments Obstruction of Congress case today. How you say? They agreed to review the validity of the subpoena that Congress gave Trump over his financial records. That means the way to resolve deputes between Congress and the Executive branch about Congressional subpoena's should be resolved in the court. Congress says Trump obstructed Congress when he claimed executive privilege but the court just proved that subpoena needs to be upheld by the court before Trump has to obey it.
    dear fucking idiot ,

    they are allowed to make the case with the INFORMATION they DO HAVE.

    they are NOT REQUIRED to take the court route to gain FURTHER evidence


    its evident you are DENSE

    fuck you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
    We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
    These are not the same thing.
    Trump is exercising his right to appeal to the SCOTUS. If they agree with congress then he must comply. As to your other point only two other presidents have been impeached and neither of those subpoenaed aides in the numbers this impeachment has. This just shows this has been a kangaroo court from day 1.

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    it appears Nixon faced the same little problem with his taxes...……..then voluntarily released them...……….now we'll see what effect history has on the SCOTUS decision(s)


    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...eturns-1050587

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
    We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
    These are not the same thing.
    That is a lie. Obama gave Eric Holder Executive Privilege for Fast a Furious documents. No one Impeached him for it. But you missed the nuance here. The SC is deciding on a subpoena dispute between the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. That is EXACTLY how it is supposed to work. The House should have taken the subpoena disagreement with the Executive branch to court. This SCOTUS case just blew up the whole he ignored our subpoena so we are justified in impeaching him. Now if Trump ignored the subpoena AFTER it was adjudicated in court then impeachment would be indicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I was wondering when the racist right wing court of rapists and drunkards would make its demonic entrance to subvert the will of all
    the decent people in this country. Guess it starts now.

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    republicans like their people to NEVER show the people that they are not money dirty


    If Shelia Lee was running they would insist she should NEVER show her tax returns

    when she won the presidency they would INSIST she NEVER show her tax returns


    they would MARCH in the streets to protect her from these court invasions of her privacy


    their morals are just that SET


    they would never then insist she show EVERYTHING merely because she was of the other party



    warning: this post contains sarcasm

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    Think about it. The next time we have a Democrat President ,many many years from now, a Republican House could subpoena every transcript of every conversation with every foreign leader and give a 2 day timeline for execution of that subpoena. When the Democrat president exerted Executive Privilege they could just impeach the president. The disputes between the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch are to be resolved by the Judaical Branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastLane View Post
    That is a lie. Obama gave Eric Holder Executive Privilege for Fast a Furious documents. No one Impeached him for it. But you missed the nuance here. The SC is deciding on a subpoena dispute between the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch. That is EXACTLY how it is supposed to work. The House should have taken the subpoena disagreement with the Executive branch to court. This SCOTUS case just blew up the whole he ignored our subpoena so we are justified in impeaching him. Now if Trump ignored the subpoena AFTER it was adjudicated in court then impeachment would be indicated.
    because your assholes used the case as a way to demand shit for the purpose of massive document demands


    they were given reams of documentation ( of which included PROOF that the program was a Bush program not an Obama program) as a way to harass the white house


    Trump announced from day one that he would NOT ALLOW ONE DOCUMENT TO BE RELEASED and NOT ONE WITNESS TO TESTIFY.



    facts matter

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