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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Impeachment doesn’t require a crime
    another idiot who is incapable of reading the Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”
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    Obstruction of justice - 18 USC 1501-1521
    Witness intimidation 18 USC 1512
    Emoluments - US Constitution
    Abuse of power - no statute. Merely reason to be removed from office
    Extortion – 18 USC 112
    Solicitation of something of value from a foreign entity - 11CFR 110.2 and 11 CFR 300.2

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    Extortion – 4 elements
    Threat – withholding $400 million
    Intent – Forcing public announcement of investigations
    Fear – of loss of funding for defensive weapons against the Russians
    Property – the thing of value is the investigations of 2016 tampering and the Bidens
    none of this is in the Articles..it's also bogus,but i'm not wasting time with you further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Even the erstwhile lefty Chris Wallace was lamenting the ‘lowering of the bar’ for impeachment.

    From now on, even democrat presidents won’t need to break the law to be impeached.

    Is getting rid of Trump really worth that? I know the answer.
    exactly. The House can write anything as we just saw, but it is weak sauce and likely quickly dismissed because it's not impeachable offenses

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Well he's wrong. In all of American history, we've only had four impeachments, and one of them didn't even go through because the president quit. And how has the bar been lowered? Should Clinton not have been impeached for lying under oath?



    First of all, Trump did break the law. Secondly, at some point in the future, we're going to have a Democrat president that attempts bribery. I would hope that president gets impeached too. However, because the Republicans are going to let Trump get away with this, cheating to win an election through bribery is going to be normalized. If President AOC or President Omar does this, their defenders will be able to say, well Trump did it and you were ok with that.
    word salad

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    another idiot who is incapable of reading the Constitution
    I'm pretty sure his reading comprehension doesn't go beyond Dick and Jane books..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    No, but it’s helpful lol.

    Nixon and Clinton both broke actual laws. The last president to be impeached without breaking an actual law was a Democrat. In 1868 Andrew Johnson was impeached for repeatedly vetoing Republican bills that would give rights to the slaves.

    Some things never change.
    dont buy into it. The text of the Constitution is unambiguous that crime is required to impeach,

    Think of it this way, it was argued if impeachment should even be in the Constitution - they finally decided it would be, but only used as an emergency measure to remove a rogue, criminal POTUS.
    They did not want it used as a routine partisan endeavor.

    So "abuse of power" is not impeachable,it's considered maladministration, because there is no clear impeachable offense that rises to the level of a criminal POTUS.

    Which again is why a crime is required - to avoid ambiguous situations that should be decided by an election instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Democrats gave up on impeaching over Trump breaking a law lol.

    It’s pretty obvious they want to impeach him and to hell with the consequences. I don’t think they even care about losing the House over it.
    exactly. it's simply a partisan endeavor on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    "they can't even list a crime of extortion or bribery."

    Heck, I haven't even seen any person list a crime...PERIOD.
    I hear all the hate, accusations, emotional tantrums and name-calling but I've yet to hear someone in here or on TV name the exact crime(s).
    They accuse abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, but have no factual reason for either.
    All they have is an impeachment being issued which thankfully will be slapped down by the Senate and never be fulfilled.
    Impeachment is just another of their TDS rants
    I don't know how you were diverted / You were perverted too
    I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    word salad
    If you think that's a word salad, you need to go back to school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    dont buy into it. The text of the Constitution is unambiguous that crime is required to impeach,

    Think of it this way, it was argued if impeachment should even be in the Constitution - they finally decided it would be, but only used as an emergency measure to remove a rogue, criminal POTUS.
    They did not want it used as a routine partisan endeavor.

    So "abuse of power" is not impeachable,it's considered maladministration, because there is no clear impeachable offense that rises to the level of a criminal POTUS.

    Which again is why a crime is required - to avoid ambiguous situations that should be decided by an election instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If you think that's a word salad, you need to go back to school.
    i think you need to learn to write on point and not ramble on while you put me to sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    i think you need to learn to write on point and not ramble on while you put me to sleep
    Which grade did you get up to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    another idiot who is incapable of reading the Constitution
    I can’t repair your unfixable stupidity.

    Does not require a criminal offense.

    ^Idiot doesn’t know shit about the Constitution or impeachment.

    Just another dime-a-dozen RW tard.

    Willful ignorance is your strong suit, cunt.


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    https://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm
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    https://www.lawliberty.org/2018/08/0...eanors-part-1/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    none of this is in the Articles..it's also bogus,but i'm not wasting time with you further
    Facts, dumbfuck.

    You possess legendary stupidity

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    peaker of the House Nancy Pelosi admitted that Democrats have been trying to impeach President Trump for the last “two and a half years.”

    WarRoom.org points out that during an interview at Politico’s “Women Rule” summit on Tuesday, Pelosi was questioned about the speed at which the Democrats are trying to impeach the President.
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    “One of the biggest criticisms of the process has been the speed at which the House Democrats are moving….” said the interviewer.

    Pelosi responded, “Its been going on for 22 months, ok? “Two and a half years, actually.”

    The interviewer then said, “There has been some criticism though, I will say about whether or not you should move forward before the end of the year or wait for the courts. Why do you think now is the time to move?”

    Again, Pelosi reiterated that Democrats have been in the process of impeaching President Trump for the last two and a half years, citing the inception of the Mueller investigation, which began on May 17,2017.

    “Well I think we’re not moving with speed. This, uh, wasn’t it two and a half years ago they initiated the Mueller investigation…,” she replied.
    https://bongino.com/pelosi-admits-de...-a-half-years/

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