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    Senate Republicans should not let this crisis go to waste. Just hold a trial, and require that all hearsay witnesses be excluded. That will prevent Dems from being able to call a single witness, and we can spend two months talking about Burisma and the Durham investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    Senate Republicans should not let this crisis go to waste. Just hold a trial, and require that all hearsay witnesses be excluded. That will prevent Dems from being able to call a single witness, and we can spend two months talking about Burisma and the Durham investigation.
    Why not lol?

    We’ve spent months telling the impeachment enthusiasts that Trump’s defense pivots around the Bidens and Burisma so what better time to put the ‘Bidens are innocent narrative’ to the truth-test.

    Let’s just go ahead and do it all at once and put everything on the table.

    Let’s lance the boil and see what drains out of it. It will be cleansing.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    whatever will cause the maximum embarrassment to demmycrats.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    And this guy is a total idiot ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    Senate Republicans should not let this crisis go to waste. Just hold a trial, and require that all hearsay witnesses be excluded. That will prevent Dems from being able to call a single witness, and we can spend two months talking about Burisma and the Durham investigation.
    If congress adopted evidence rules as a court of law it would at least limit the mountains of laws created.

    You are shortchanging the exceptions to hearsay, by the way. Now that would be one boring trial and would take months
    and I don't think dragging this out with motion practice is what Trump wants. He intends to rip off a bandaid, claim victory
    and resume lying and cheating all the time. Cuz that is the message your senate will send. Cheating in our elections
    using our tax money is AOK..... using foreigners under duress to mount bogus investigations our venerable cops blew out of
    the water as a Russian farce? so much the better, eh comrad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Not in the least.
    You should be. His own party kept him from testifying for Mueller because they were so afraid he'd flip out and go off-script. Even his written answers were carefully edited.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why not lol?

    We’ve spent months telling the impeachment enthusiasts that Trump’s defense pivots around the Bidens and Burisma so what better time to put the ‘Bidens are innocent narrative’ to the truth-test.

    Let’s just go ahead and do it all at once and put everything on the table.

    Let’s lance the boil and see what drains out of it. It will be cleansing.
    The main reason is that the Fake News media will have to cover the trial, and their viewers will be exposed to some/all of the testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    If congress adopted evidence rules as a court of law it would at least limit the mountains of laws created.

    You are shortchanging the exceptions to hearsay, by the way. Now that would be one boring trial and would take months
    and I don't think dragging this out with motion practice is what Trump wants. He intends to rip off a bandaid, claim victory
    and resume lying and cheating all the time. Cuz that is the message your senate will send. Cheating in our elections
    using our tax money is AOK..... using foreigners under duress to mount bogus investigations our venerable cops blew out of
    the water as a Russian farce? so much the better, eh comrad?
    Forget motions to dismiss. Drag this mother out with as much testimony as possible. The worst thing that could happen to the Democrats is for this trial to be going-on anywhere near the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You should be. His own party kept him from testifying for Mueller because they were so afraid he'd flip out and go off-script. Even his written answers were carefully edited.
    Mueller was setting a perjury trap. Look at all the process crimes for "lying" he got on rather trivial matters

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    get it over. get the aquittal in the Senate, and then you can investigate the Bidens

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You should be. His own party kept him from testifying for Mueller because they were so afraid he'd flip out and go off-script. Even his written answers were carefully edited.
    Oh come on, it's was plainly obvious that they just wanted him to do their job for them. They had precious little so hoped he would give them what they wanted. Trump knew that and wouldn't play ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Mueller was setting a perjury trap. Look at all the process crimes for "lying" he got on rather trivial matters
    Indeed, it's the old give them enough rope scenario!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Oh come on, it's was plainly obvious that they just wanted him to do their job for them. They had precious little so hoped he would give them what they wanted. Trump knew that and wouldn't play ball.
    And he looks even more justified in not playing ball since the Horowitz’s report.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    I think it would be hilarious if Durham went after Mueller for suborning perjury.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....bi_121590.html
    Of all the Trump-Russia rumors, insinuations and falsehoods – from secret payments for shadowy hackers, to videotaped prostitutes with active bladders, to a clandestine rendezvous with Kremlin figures in Prague – the supposedly pro-Russia Ukraine platform alteration stands out.
    It seemed to offer early, public, concrete evidence of an actual bending of prospective U.S. policy to suit Moscow. The false narrative is also significant because it was initially pushed not by Democrats, but by associates of Republican Sen. John McCain and other so-called Never Trumpers.
    As a bipartisan red flag, it helped build momentum around a narrative of Trump treachery with, then as now, Ukraine playing a central role.
    It also shows how the Russia and Ukraine controversies were linked from the beginning by Trump’s foes.(Manafort)

    Rachel Hoff, an anti-Trump GOP convention delegate, was the first person interviewed by Robert Mueller's team.
    She was a source for a Washington Post column saying the Trump campaign “gutted” the GOP’s platform plank on Ukraine to favor Russia.

    This episode loomed so large that the first person Mueller’s team interviewed after taking over the Russia investigation in May 2017 was Rachel Hoff, who was serving as McCain’s policy adviser on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Like her boss, Hoff was no fan of President Trump. Agents sought to confirm with her reports that the Trump campaign had “gutted” the GOP’s platform plank on Ukraine to favor Russia during the party's convention in Cleveland in early July 2016.

    As a disgruntled convention delegate, Hoff got the story started...

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