LUCY MCBATH just voted, I bet she'd rather have her MURDERED kid back than be inCONGR

[Centerleftfl]

Didn't say that! If I approach you in a threating manner while holding a weapon of some type gun, knife, bat, fist raised what ever then under Fla. law you can shoot. But you better be damned sure you can prove you were in danger.

If I threaten to whip your ass then no you can't shoot. Get it?

The kids were SITTING IN THEIR CAR. HE engaged the kids. They SPOKE back. Do not speak if black? Or don't speak to PISSED OFF WHITE MEN if black?

[Eagle_Eye]

The kids were SITTING THEIR CAR. HE engaged the kids. They SPOKE back. Do not speak if black?

I already told you he shot into the car! Teen aged boys no matter what their skin color are full of testosterone. So when challenged they are going to talk back. The prudent thing would to have ignored the guy and drove off. But no they stayed got into an altercation and one got killed for it.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Drove 4 hours away. This happened just AFTER leaving his ESTRANGED KID'S wedding (at least estranged before the wedding) where he consumed at least some alcohol and bought beer as I remember at the gas station. I also believe he had his girlfriend in the car.

Why do you suppose he was estranged from his kid? Why the F did his girlfriend drive off with him?

My understanding is that the kids drove off first, so maybe she didn't know about the shooting? She had been inside the gas station store to buy stuff when it happened.

[ThatOwlWoman]

I already told you he shot into the car! Teen aged boys no matter what their skin color are full of testosterone. So when challenged they are going to talk back. The prudent thing would to have ignored the guy and drove off. But no they stayed got into an altercation and one got killed for it.

The prudent thing to do would have been for the murderer to roll his windows up and turn up his own music and ignore them to his gf came out of the store. Why start a fight over something so stupid and trivial? He had a concealed carry permit. Aren't those supposed to be for when you are actually physically threatened, and not just offended because you don't like someone's volume and choice of music?

[Eagle_Eye]

The prudent thing to do would have been for the murderer to roll his windows up and turn up his own music and ignore them to his gf came out of the store. Why start a fight over something so stupid and trivial? He had a concealed carry permit. Aren't those supposed to be for when you are actually physically threatened, and not just offended because you don't like someone's volume and choice of music?

Have you heard the way some of these kids have their music cranked? Hell with your windows up and the radio it still rattles your windows and is deafening a half block away. Not only that the boys were breaking Florida law.

FLORIDA LAW
The Florida law in which you are interested makes it illegal for anyone operating or occupying a motor vehicle on a street or highway to operate or amplify the sound produced by a radio, tape player, or other mechanical sound making device from within the vehicle so that the sound is (1) plainly audible at a distance of 100 feet or more from the vehicle or (2) louder than necessary for the convenient hearing of those inside the vehicle in areas adjoining churches, schools, or hospitals (Florida Stat. § 316. 3045). Vehicles exempt from the requirements include law enforcement vehicles and emergency vehicles with communication devices necessary for performing official duties, vehicles used for business or political purposes that use sound making devices in the normal course of conducting business, and vehicle horns or other warning devices required or permitted by law.

So the shooter should have called the cops and let them handle it. But hind sight is always 100%.

I already explained stand your ground.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Have you heard the way some of these kids have their music cranked? Hell with your windows up and the radio it still rattles your windows and is deafening a half block away. Not only that the boys were breaking Florida law.
So the shooter should have called the cops and let them handle it. But hind sight is always 100%.

I already explained stand your ground.

Yes, we used to live across the street from an urban community college so I'm well aware of the loud music issue. It's annoying, but hardly a capital offense. It was kind of funny at times to watch our parrots start dancing when they heard the music -- inside the house with the windows closed. lol

The problem with that idiotic stand your ground law is that far too many tender snowflakes have and will use it to commit civilian executions, rather than for self-defense as intended.

[Eagle_Eye]

Yes, we used to live across the street from an urban community college so I'm well aware of the loud music issue. It's annoying, but hardly a capital offense. It was kind of funny at times to watch our parrots start dancing when they heard the music -- inside the house with the windows closed. lol

The problem with that idiotic stand your ground law is that far too many tender snowflakes have and will use it to commit civilian executions, rather than for self-defense as intended.

Actually you are incorrect. There have been very few cases where the law has been abused. In this case it wouldn't have mattered if there was a stand your ground law or not. The outcome most likely would have been the same either way.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Actually you are incorrect. There have been very few cases where the law has been abused. In this case it wouldn't have mattered if there was a stand your ground law or not. The outcome most likely would have been the same either way.

That's good. Just because you have a CCW doesn't mean you get to behave like judge, jury, and executioner.

[Centerleftfl]

Actually you are incorrect. There have been very few cases where the law has been abused. In this case it wouldn't have mattered if there was a stand your ground law or not. The outcome most likely would have been the same either way.

We can only hope.

[Centerleftfl]

why do constitution and freedom haters always respond with hyperbole when they get their arguments blasted out of the water?

You are PROJECTING again.

[Centerleftfl]

Yes, we used to live across the street from an urban community college so I'm well aware of the loud music issue. It's annoying, but hardly a capital offense. It was kind of funny at times to watch our parrots start dancing when they heard the music -- inside the house with the windows closed. lol

The problem with that idiotic stand your ground law is that far too many tender snowflakes have and will use it to commit civilian executions, rather than for self-defense as intended.

What color are the kids across the street? This motherfucker went back to his car and told his girlfriend, "HE didn't have to listen to THUG music." Got his gun and fired 10 ROUNDS into the kid's car!

Apparently "black" music CAN be a capital offense at least in FLA.

[countryboy]

I had a condo not 1000 feet away from the gas station--30 years before. It was a SAFE neighborhood then and is now. I'd say 'LILY' WHITE--then and now. I am from JACKSONVILLE and still go back routinely, I stopped at THAT Gate station 3 months ago, nothing has changed.

Yeah, that's believable. Lol.

[ThatOwlWoman]

What color are the kids across the street? This motherfucker went back to his car and told his girlfriend, "HE didn't have to listen to THUG music." Got his gun and fired 10 ROUNDS into the kid's car!
Apparently "black" music CAN be a capital offense at least in FLA.

Yeah, and they call us "snowflakes."

The community college has a pretty diverse student body including students from other countries. For some reason, hip-hop was/is popular among most of the kids, if you go by what you heard blasting out of their cars. I advised Mr. Owl to buy stock in hearing aid companies; we're gonna make a fortune. lol

[SmarterthanYou]

You are PROJECTING again.

i never use hyperbole.