Earl (12-15-2019), RB 60 (12-17-2019), USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Earl (12-15-2019), RB 60 (12-17-2019), USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Hello Darth,
As far as Republicans are concerned that would be a more valid reason than trying to get a foreign country to help him rig the 2020 election.
Such as passing a budget or the new NAFTA? Oh, wait. They got those done even as they determined valid cause to impeach President Trump.
Democrats are taking their responsibility very seriously. Republicans are being strictly partisan.
If they want to further their record of being highly partisan, they are free to do so.
Hello. This impeachment is about trying to rig the 2020 election. That's why it can't wait.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Earl (12-15-2019), RB 60 (12-17-2019), USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Stretch (12-15-2019)
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
Loving91390 (12-15-2019), RB 60 (12-17-2019)
Darth Omar (12-15-2019), RB 60 (12-17-2019)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Hello dukkha,
Well if he believed what he said then he wouldn't sue me because that would not be enjoying the passage of time.
I certainly believe it. That's why I posted it. And I have already given him credit for exactly that line many times previously.
But I understand you're tied of arguing from a position of nonfact, and now you believe you have me on something so you're going with it.
All that does is indicate that your political arguments are frustrating to you.
I get it.
I would be pretty ashamed if I had to be on Trump's side.
I would want to divert the conversation to something else easier to argue.
It's OK. I understand.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Frank Apisa (12-16-2019), Micawber (12-16-2019)
Bigdog (12-16-2019)
How bad do you think this could be, Frank lol?
At worst, Trump is guilty of a ham-handed, lame and *inept* attempt at bribing another world leader to open an investigation. And in typical ‘Trump fashion’ the alleged crime never comes to fruition. Just like Trump is guilty of ‘obstructing’ Mullet without ever actually obstructing the investigation.
Trump sucks at crime just like he sucks at racism and Hitlerism.
At any rate, this is an absolute joke compared to abusing the FISA court and illegally surveilling a presidential campaign. Am I not right? Trump failed at what he’s been charged with [well, Trump has yet to be charged with anything] and no harm was done: Zelensky never opened an investigation on the Bidens. Whatever political damage Joe Biden incurs from his son’s relationship with Burisma—-it’s of his own making.
Since you and Politalker are seemingly concerned about election integrity, I’m curious as to why neither of you feel compelled to weigh in on FISA abuse threads.
Or have you and I just missed it?
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
I honestly think the attempted extortion merits an impeachment. Whether or not it warrants removal is up to the Senate...and it seems that decision has already been made. My personal opinion is that the attempted extortion is more serious than the charges against either Nixon or Clinton. So if the charges raised against either of those two were considered serious enough to consider being removed...the charges against Trump are serious enough also.
I acknowledge my considerations of these charges may be influenced by my very strong feelings of revulsion at Trump being the face of America on the world's stage.
I don't remember a time where I felt like this before.
But...we all have got to live through this period as best we can. If the coming election goes the way Trump admirers expect...we will endure four more years of this. If it goes the other way, I suspect things will not get appreciably better...and we will have to endure four years of what comes instead of "more Trump."
I'll do it the way I am doing it now...pissing and moaning on the Internet with interesting people and deriving what enjoyment I can from it all. Hell...I'm 83. I may not have to "endure" anything no matter who or what wins!
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
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