USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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Micawber (12-15-2019)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
"Pelosi herself said impeachment should be bipartisan or not at all. "
'Should' being the operative word.
It assumes that Representatives will honestly and openly consider the case, without predetermination.
It assumes they will honor their oath to protect and hold allegiance to the Constitution above all else.
It assumes they will be loyal to the United States over their political party.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
The whole "it must be bipartisan" is a ridiculous constriction to place on oneself. It presupposes good faith and conscience on the part of all.
If the by sheer number the senate can "acquit" the president and that number is a lockstep cult that does not share the frame of reference of reason, rule of law
and morality, then you could never bring impeachment, even if Trump got on Air Force 1 and nuked the USA.
If Republicans will simply go along with any trouble Trump gets himself into you could never have impeachment with "Pelosi's" earlier stance.
The "rule" should simply include it is preferable if it has bipartisan support. Bipartisan support
should not be the crucible or test. For instance, you could have impeachment when there is bipartisan support when NO wrong was actually done.
The substance and virtue of the case must always dictate how they act. Here no person of good conscience can do other than impeach Trump and remove
him from office. Anyone voting otherwise is bought and corrupted and themselves violating their oaths. Hence my traitor list.
It is as ipso facto as it can get. You vote Trump out or you are yourself "worthy" of impeachment.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Micawber (12-15-2019)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
USFREEDOM911 (12-15-2019)
Micawber (12-15-2019)
I wish I was too. But in innumerable other ways and perhaps this one too, the Republicans played the fool and were outed for exactly what they are.
We are beating our heads against a wall. I could spend 10 hours splaying out each article of evidence presented in list form here and the conclusive cumulative effect
would convince any rational and open mind exactly and with zero room for doubt what happened here. But we are not dealing with open minds. We are dealing
with people whose alpha-omega intent is to provide themselves with a figleaf, a mere piffle and trifle, and to cling to that to the exclusion of everything
else so they can mouth the "nay" vote. Quite simply they are politically corrupted and country and truth be damned. They are under orders to acquit. All they are doing
is looking for the largest fig leaf to cover the shame. The result is preordained.
Frank Apisa (12-15-2019), PoliTalker (12-15-2019)
Basically, Democrats don’t want to subject their crime theory to things like due process until it gets to the Senate—which still isn’t a slam dunk based on some of what I’ve been hearing.
There was no debating the guilt of either Nixon or Clinton in their Senate trials—it was only a question of whether it warranted removal.
Democrats want to skip ‘the due process thing lol’ and proclaim Trump guilty with their *tightly controlled* Schiff hearing. Yet it seems to surprise them that republicans [and even some democrats] are calling bullshit on it. I guess they realize this but who knows..but democrats are faced with trying to establish Trump’s guilt in the Senate, where the other side gets to tell their story, finally.
Where Republicans get to call one or both of the Biden’s to see if Trump may have had a *responsibility* to ask Zelensky for an investigation. Pelosi and company may insist that they are innocent but, rest assured, they’ll be sitting there with both fingers crossed while the Biden’s are under oath.
To say things could get messy for Democrats is an understatement. Democrats warrant their own chapter in The Book of Hubris.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
PoliTalker (12-15-2019)
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