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    De Blasio’s NYPD Still Employs Stop And Frisk Tactics Using Gang Database: Report
    A new report claims the New York Police Department is using a dubious database to profile and crack down on Black and brown youth.


    A new report alleges that New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s crackdown on gangs is so overreaching and ill-defined, that he has effectively revived the same discriminatory policing practices he slams his predecessor for. The report, compiled by the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College, accuses de Blasio’s New York City Police Department of targeting Black and brown communities with militarized takedowns by vaguely associating them with gangs. The college released its findings ― titled “Gang Takedowns in the de Blasio Era: The Dangers of ’Precision Policing” ― as the mayor continued to publicly criticize former city mayor and current 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg for the now-defunct stop and frisk policy.

    Authors Josmar Trujillo and professor Alex Vitale say the NYPD has cobbled together policies that allow it to classify Black and brown youth as possible gang members using red flags that might be as simple as a kid wearing certain clothing or using slang. And under de Blasio, the number of young men being classified as gang members in non-white communities is skyrocketing. “The decision to frame the crime problems in certain communities as a gang problem is a political one,” said Vitale on Thursday. He added that the report is calling on the mayor to “switch to real, community-based policing strategies that try to treat young people with respect.”

    You white non racist dems want to help your fellow Black or Brown dem....vote out any representative who signs off on this law.


    This is not equality

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nypd-...b06a50a2e9c237

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    Reality is reality ..... get over yourself .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Reality is reality ..... get over yourself .
    So in you're reality all young Black and Brown men are gang members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So in you're reality all young Black and Brown men are gang members?
    No just the ones in gangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So in you're reality all young Black and Brown men are gang members?
    When they flash gang signs and wear gang clothes and gang tattoos .... it’s a good sign .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    De Blasio’s NYPD Still Employs Stop And Frisk Tactics Using Gang Database: Report
    A new report claims the New York Police Department is using a dubious database to profile and crack down on Black and brown youth.


    A new report alleges that New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s crackdown on gangs is so overreaching and ill-defined, that he has effectively revived the same discriminatory policing practices he slams his predecessor for. The report, compiled by the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College, accuses de Blasio’s New York City Police Department of targeting Black and brown communities with militarized takedowns by vaguely associating them with gangs. The college released its findings ― titled “Gang Takedowns in the de Blasio Era: The Dangers of ’Precision Policing” ― as the mayor continued to publicly criticize former city mayor and current 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg for the now-defunct stop and frisk policy.

    Authors Josmar Trujillo and professor Alex Vitale say the NYPD has cobbled together policies that allow it to classify Black and brown youth as possible gang members using red flags that might be as simple as a kid wearing certain clothing or using slang. And under de Blasio, the number of young men being classified as gang members in non-white communities is skyrocketing. “The decision to frame the crime problems in certain communities as a gang problem is a political one,” said Vitale on Thursday. He added that the report is calling on the mayor to “switch to real, community-based policing strategies that try to treat young people with respect.”

    You white non racist dems want to help your fellow Black or Brown dem....vote out any representative who signs off on this law.


    This is not equality

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nypd-...b06a50a2e9c237
    I find your link lacking. This study cites no arrest numbers, and no citation of innocents who were arrested, only to be released for lack of cause. Only a complaint about a database.

    Contrast that with stop and frisk, which overwhelmingly arrested innocent black men, and almost never found a gun. (which was the supposed reason for stopping and frisking)
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    When they flash gang signs and wear gang clothes and gang tattoos .... it’s a good sign .
    What exactly are gang clothes?

    Be specific

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I find your link lacking. This study cites no arrest numbers, and no citation of innocents who were arrested, only to be released for lack of cause. Only a complaint about a database.

    Contrast that with stop and frisk, which overwhelmingly arrested innocent black men, and almost never found a gun. (which was the supposed reason for stopping and frisking)
    So, are you for ending this practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    De Blasio’s NYPD Still Employs Stop And Frisk Tactics Using Gang Database: Report
    A new report claims the New York Police Department is using a dubious database to profile and crack down on Black and brown youth.


    A new report alleges that New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s crackdown on gangs is so overreaching and ill-defined, that he has effectively revived the same discriminatory policing practices he slams his predecessor for. The report, compiled by the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College, accuses de Blasio’s New York City Police Department of targeting Black and brown communities with militarized takedowns by vaguely associating them with gangs. The college released its findings ― titled “Gang Takedowns in the de Blasio Era: The Dangers of ’Precision Policing” ― as the mayor continued to publicly criticize former city mayor and current 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg for the now-defunct stop and frisk policy.

    Authors Josmar Trujillo and professor Alex Vitale say the NYPD has cobbled together policies that allow it to classify Black and brown youth as possible gang members using red flags that might be as simple as a kid wearing certain clothing or using slang. And under de Blasio, the number of young men being classified as gang members in non-white communities is skyrocketing. “The decision to frame the crime problems in certain communities as a gang problem is a political one,” said Vitale on Thursday. He added that the report is calling on the mayor to “switch to real, community-based policing strategies that try to treat young people with respect.”

    You white non racist dems want to help your fellow Black or Brown dem....vote out any representative who signs off on this law.


    This is not equality

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nypd-...b06a50a2e9c237
    Using Gang Database Poor gangbangers.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So in you're reality all young Black and Brown men are gang members?
    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    No just the ones in gangs.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    What exactly are gang clothes?

    Be specific
    Clothing. The uniform of Hispanic gangs is standard and easily recognizable. Most gang members adopt a basic style that includes white T-shirts, thin belts, baggy pants with split cuffs, a black or blue knit cap (beanie) or a bandana tied around the forehead similar to a sweat band.

    Black gang members are individualistic in their dress. Black gangs tend to identify themselves by adopting certain colors. The "Crips" identify themselves with the colors of blue or black or a combination of the two. "Blood" gangs generally use red accessories, such as caps or bandanas, to identify themselves.

    While clothing alone cannot positively determine membership in a street gang, color and style serve to identify each gang. Green can either mean the gang member is declaring neutrality for the moment or is a drug dealer. Black is worn by some Hispanic gangs and Heavy Metal Anglo gangs. Other common gang colors include brown or purple.

    Note: Some gangs are starting to change their clothing style by no longer wearing their colors in an effort to deceive law enforcement and conceal their gang affiliation.

    Gang clothing styles can be easily detected because of the specific way gang members wear their clothing. Examples are preferences for wearing baggy or "sagging" pants or having baseball caps turned at an angle. Gang members often prefer particular brands of shoes, pants or shirts. For example, some gangs like to wear plaid shirts in either blue, brown, black or red. These shirts are worn loosely and untucked. Gang graffiti, symbols, messages or gang names can be written or embroidered on jackets, pants and baseball caps. Other identifying items include belt buckles with the gangs initials, key chains, starter jackets (team jackets), and red or blue bandannas commonly called "rags .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Clothing. The uniform of Hispanic gangs is standard and easily recognizable. Most gang members adopt a basic style that includes white T-shirts, thin belts, baggy pants with split cuffs, a black or blue knit cap (beanie) or a bandana tied around the forehead similar to a sweat band.

    Black gang members are individualistic in their dress. Black gangs tend to identify themselves by adopting certain colors. The "Crips" identify themselves with the colors of blue or black or a combination of the two. "Blood" gangs generally use red accessories, such as caps or bandanas, to identify themselves.

    While clothing alone cannot positively determine membership in a street gang, color and style serve to identify each gang. Green can either mean the gang member is declaring neutrality for the moment or is a drug dealer. Black is worn by some Hispanic gangs and Heavy Metal Anglo gangs. Other common gang colors include brown or purple.

    Note: Some gangs are starting to change their clothing style by no longer wearing their colors in an effort to deceive law enforcement and conceal their gang affiliation.

    Gang clothing styles can be easily detected because of the specific way gang members wear their clothing. Examples are preferences for wearing baggy or "sagging" pants or having baseball caps turned at an angle. Gang members often prefer particular brands of shoes, pants or shirts. For example, some gangs like to wear plaid shirts in either blue, brown, black or red. These shirts are worn loosely and untucked. Gang graffiti, symbols, messages or gang names can be written or embroidered on jackets, pants and baseball caps. Other identifying items include belt buckles with the gangs initials, key chains, starter jackets (team jackets), and red or blue bandannas commonly called "rags .
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the ignorance in this post is alarming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So, are you for ending this practice?
    Sure. But what are the stats? Or is this just a database issue?

    Personally, I always said that if they stopped and frisked on Wall St, they'd find illegal prescription meds and lots of blow. But they never bothered.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    [B]De Blasio’s NYPD Still Employs Stop And Frisk Tactics Using Gang Database: Report
    A new report claims the New York Police Department is using a dubious database to profile and crack down on Black and brown youth.
    do you want illegal guns off the street and out of the hands of violent gangs or not?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Sure. But what are the stats? Or is this just a database issue?

    Personally, I always said that if they stopped and frisked on Wall St, they'd find illegal prescription meds and lots of blow. But they never bothered.
    I personally don't depend on states or databases. They usually skew the results to fit the narrative. I go by actual history and experiences.

    But true....they will find more drugs and guns in any other neighborhood outside of Black communities. When the right talks about confiscating guns......they are talking about confiscating from Black and Brown americans.

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