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    Default Germany Tells Trump Not To Meddle in Europe’s Energy Issues

    Germany is pushing back on President Donald Trump’s moves to impose sanctions on the controversial Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline, with Angela Merkel’s top diplomat rejecting outside meddling.

    “European energy policy must be decided in Europe, not the U.S.,” Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said in an e-mailed statement on Thursday. “We fundamentally reject outside intervention and sanctions with extraterritorial effect.”

    The long-threatened measures on the Baltic Sea project that supplies gas to Germany directly from Russia would be imposed on companies assembling the pipeline, a venture of Russian energy company Gazprom PJSC. The U.S. House of Representatives included the sanctions in a defense authorization bill approved Wednesday.

    The Senate is expected to approve the measure as early next week before Trump signs it into law.


    Merkel’s government has been bracing for U.S. sanctions on the 1,230-kilometer (764-mile) undersea supply link, through which Trump has accused Germany of sending “billions” of dollars to Russia.
    The project has also met with criticism in the European Union, with nations led by Poland saying it ratchets up the bloc’s dependence on Russian gas.

    The sanctions, which have bipartisan support in both houses of Congress, come only months away from the project’s completion. The provision targets vessels that lay the pipeline as well as executives from companies linked to the vessels. They could be denied visas and have transactions related to their U.S.-based property or interests blocked.

    French electricity and gas firm Engie SA, OMV AG, Royal Dutch Shell Plc, Uniper SE and Wintershall DEA, are also investors in the Nord Stream 2 project along with Gazprom.

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    The U.S. House of Representatives included the sanctions in a defense authorization bill approved Wednesday.

    The Senate is expected to approve the measure as early next week before Trump signs it into law.
    WTF??
    Germany and Russia can't do business now without the INSANE US Russiaphobes sanctioning them???

    We are crazy. The Phobes are neocons. Stay out of Europe's business -not our business

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    Merkel’s government has been bracing for U.S. sanctions on the 1,230-kilometer (764-mile) undersea supply link, through which Trump has accused Germany of sending “billions” of dollars to Russia.
    Trump has lost his mind from the constant assault by the Russiaphobes
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    I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    WTF??
    Germany and Russia can't do business now without the INSANE US Russiaphobes sanctioning them???

    We are crazy. The Phobes are neocons. Stay out of Europe's business -not our business
    Disagree with you on this one. While we have to work together with Russia on some issues, it does not mean we can't oppose them on others.

    Putin is a bad guy. A weaker Russia is good for us and the world. JMHO

    Trump has a doctrine of financially squeezing bad guys to get them to conform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Disagree with you on this one. While we have to work together with Russia on some issues, it does not mean we can't oppose them on others.

    Putin is a bad guy. A weaker Russia is good for us and the world. JMHO

    Trump has a doctrine of financially squeezing bad guys to get them to conform.
    all that said....
    we should not be SANCTIONING germany and Russia.. they HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BUSINESS DEALS.

    sanctions are for like the war in Donbass , or Crimea, not legit business deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    all that said....
    we should not be SANCTIONING germany and Russia.. they HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BUSINESS DEALS.

    sanctions are for like the war in Donbass , or Crimea, not legit business deals
    I understand where you're coming from, but I'll say this ....

    If Germany is going to surrender it's sovereignty to Pootie by putting themselves at the mercy of that tyrant for their Energy, then we might as well dissolve NATO or kick them out.

    And, if we can box the Germans into buying our LG exports, ... that's even better. JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I understand where you're coming from, but I'll say this ....

    If Germany is going to surrender it's sovereignty to Pootie by putting themselves at the mercy of that tyrant for their Energy, then we might as well dissolve NATO or kick them out.

    And, if we can box the Germans into buying our LG exports, ... that's even better. JMHO
    thats ridiculous.. the only difference is Nordstrean2 bypasses Ukraine
    either way Russia sells its gas

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    thats ridiculous.. the only difference is Nordstrean2 bypasses Ukraine
    either way Russia sells its gas
    Then Merkel has no reason to be pissed off about how the natural gas gets to Germany and Russia should have no problem with it either if they still get to sell their gas.

    Without Nordstream2, the Russians are forced to ally with Ukraine. And the EU is less dependent on Pootie for their energy.

    We just freed East Germany from Russian sovereignty only 30 years ago. And now Merkel wants to put Russia back in control.
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