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Impeachment needle not moving as majority of voters oppose removing Trump: polls
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News
President Trump blasts House Democrats' articles of impeachment
Trump calls the decision to draft articles of impeachment 'sheer political madness'; chief White House correspondent John Roberts reports.
As the House of Representatives begins drafting articles of impeachment against President Trump, two new national polls indicate a slight majority of Americans still oppose impeaching and removing the Republican president from office.
“American voters signal they are slightly more inclined not to impeach than to impeach," Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy noted.
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And the surveys – from Quinnipiac and Monmouth University – overall indicate little movement in the minds of Americans on impeachment and on Trump’s approval rating over the past month. This, following dramatic public hearings by the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees that culminated Tuesday with Democrats unveiling impeachment articles alleging Trump abused the power of his office and obstructed the congressional investigation into his alleged wrongdoing.
According to the Monmouth poll – which was released Wednesday – 50 percent said the president should not be impeached and removed from office, with 45 percent calling for impeachment and removal from the White House. The numbers are little changed from Monmouth’s November poll, when a 51-44 percent majority opposed impeachment and removal.
“Opinion on impeachment has been rock steady since news of the Ukraine call first broke. Any small shifts we are seeing now are likely to be statistical noise,” Patrick Murray, Monmouth University Polling Institute director, emphasized.
It’s a similar story in the Quinnipiac survey, which was released on Tuesday. By a 51-45 percent margin, Americans opposed impeaching and removing the president, little changed from the school’s late November poll.
Both polls indicate – as expected – a continued vast partisan divide between Democrats and Republicans over impeachment.
But among independent voters, the Monmouth survey indicates by a wide 55-36 percent margin, they oppose impeaching and removing Trump from the presidency. In the Quinnipiac poll, independents oppose the move by a smaller 52-44 percent margin.
The impeachment developments, which have dominated headlines in the media the past couple of months, appear to have had little impact on Trump’s approval rating – a key indicator of a president’s clout and standing."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/imp...ng-trump-polls
The salient part is the 55% of Independent voters who oppose impeachment.
Independents elect presidents.
Last edited by Earl; 12-12-2019 at 06:37 AM.
Darth Omar (12-12-2019), RB 60 (12-12-2019)
The Incredible Shrinking Impeachment
The Democratic grounds for ousting Trump are weak—and damaging to constitutional norms.
Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-inc...nt-11576109728
"So that’s it? That’s all there is? After all the talk of obstruction of justice, collusion with Russia, bribery, extortion, profiting from the Presidency, and more, House Democrats have reduced their articles of impeachment against President Trump to two: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Honey, we shrunk the impeachment."
Darth Omar (12-12-2019)
The idea that most oppose is complete bullshit. Even though numbers polls are usually worthless in the long run they have been consistent enough across the board to get a good enough picture. Since even some of the polls more favored by conservatives haven't shown well for Trump, I don't even want to take you off ignore to see what messed up source you must be going off of.
These polls.
And the surveys – from Quinnipiac and Monmouth University – overall indicate little movement in the minds of Americans on impeachment and on Trump’s approval rating over the past month. This, following dramatic public hearings by the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees that culminated Tuesday with Democrats unveiling impeachment articles alleging Trump abused the power of his office and obstructed the congressional investigation into his alleged wrongdoing.
According to the Monmouth poll – which was released Wednesday – 50 percent said the president should not be impeached and removed from office, with 45 percent calling for impeachment and removal from the White House. The numbers are little changed from Monmouth’s November poll, when a 51-44 percent majority opposed impeachment and removal.
“Opinion on impeachment has been rock steady since news of the Ukraine call first broke. Any small shifts we are seeing now are likely to be statistical noise,” Patrick Murray, Monmouth University Polling Institute director, emphasized.
It’s a similar story in the Quinnipiac survey, which was released on Tuesday. By a 51-45 percent margin, Americans opposed impeaching and removing the president, little changed from the school’s late November poll.
Both polls indicate – as expected – a continued vast partisan divide between Democrats and Republicans over impeachment.
But among independent voters, the Monmouth survey indicates by a wide 55-36 percent margin, they oppose impeaching and removing Trump from the presidency. In the Quinnipiac poll, independents oppose the move by a smaller 52-44 percent margin.
The impeachment developments, which have dominated headlines in the media the past couple of months, appear to have had little impact on Trump’s approval rating – a key indicator of a president’s clout and standing."
The salient part is the 55% of Independent voters who oppose impeachment.
Independents elect presidents.
2 years and 11 months of the rich whtie Dems and Globalist ruling elites attacking Pres. Trump with 94% negative coverage, media hoaxes and even impeachment have basically not moved the polls one iota in all that time.
Liberals are enraged.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Darth Omar (12-12-2019), Earl (12-12-2019)
Those radical Democrat Socialists are saying that they may impeach again later when this one fails.
This should ensure that they remain the minority party into perpetuity.
Liberals are enraged.It’s a similar story in the Quinnipiac survey, which was released on Tuesday. By a 51-45 percent margin, Americans opposed impeaching and removing the president, little changed from the school’s late November poll.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Earl (12-12-2019)
The actual measure is almost a dead heat.
No one expects the Senate to acquit.
The process then is to ensure the voting public, which steadfastly has maintained a negative measure of unpopularity from Trump, not change its overall opinion.
It has not.
Earl (12-12-2019)
Actually, no one on the planet expects the Republican Senate to convict.
16 repub political career politicians and the smartest woman in the world could not beat him when he was a novice.
Now he is the incumbent president, with an awesome track record in both domestic and foreign policy, and a roaring economy. You're going to have to come up with someone better than Plugs or Buttplugger to beat him this time, Jimbo.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Darth Omar (12-12-2019), Earl (12-12-2019)
Democrats promised a Shelby but delivered a Prius lol.
At least Greta is happy. If she’s capable of being happy. Sad, what they’ve done to that kid.
Regarding the polls: whatever they are today is probably a high water mark for Democrats. A factor that gets over looked is the Durham investigation. The story with FISA abuse is just the tip of the iceberg and it ran Impeachment off the news cycle. It’s fresh and most importantly, it’s in its infancy. Unless you’re a Trump hater impeachment is stale by now. It was stale months ago.
Voters who are paying attention know that Schiff’s memo was refuted by Horowitz and Schiff was leading the House inquisition. Nunes was vindicated by Horowitz. Objective voters could easily conclude democrats are on the wrong side of things—in fact, they’ve been on the wrong side of things for three years now.
In fact, I’ll go as far as speculate that some anti-Trumpers of 2016 vintage have been Red Pilled by now. Including democrat minority voters. In fact, the only question is if there will be enough of them to matter.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Bigdog (12-12-2019)
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