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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    What If Trump Loses In 2020 And Refuses To Accept The Results Or Leave Office?
    As usual, CNN gets it all wrong. The question should be rephrased; What If Trump WINS In 2020 and, Democrats once again, refuse to accept the results?

    Will we see another four year whine fest of lies, distortions, hyperbole and innuendo against this President?
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You still can't accept the fact he won in 2016. Will you become violent when he wins in 2020?
    Great question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    The only people unable to accept the results of elections are democrats

    What if democrat party members on JPP started threads and they weren’t based on a faulty premise?
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    If you cheat your way through life and then you take a very high profile job which requires you to not cheat you have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If you cheat your way through life and then you take a very high profile job which requires you to not cheat you have a problem.
    How did Trump cheat?

    Trump declares that he likes air and that air is good! PoliTalker's response:
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    As usual, CNN gets it all wrong. The question should be rephrased; What If Trump WINS In 2020 and, Democrats once again, refuse to accept the results?

    Will we see another four year whine fest of lies, distortions, hyperbole and innuendo against this President?
    Of course we will. They haven't stopped for the last 3 years, another 4 more will surely "wind them up" and they'll go crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    He will be reduced to babbling. It will be worse than Nixon. Ya know he wants to believe in himself so badly. If only his entire life wasn't so fake.
    ... it will be ANOTHER conspiracy. It will be fun to watch (... along with watching the Red Team Drama Queens here at JPP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If you cheat your way through life and then you take a very high profile job which requires you to not cheat you have a problem.
    Then you'd best stay at flippin' burgers, we wouldn't want you in a "high profile job."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    ... it will be ANOTHER conspiracy. It will be fun to watch (... along with watching the Red Team Drama Queens here at JPP)
    And as usual, Jack will put on his show

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Man, you know you're getting old when you hear the same things over and over. First it was Clinton wasn't going to leave office. Then it was Bush wasn't going to leave office. Now it's Trump isn't going to leave office...
    You left out the Reichwingers' screeching about how Obama won't leave office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    And as usual, Jack will put on his show




    No RB. Jack will be working on his box of popcorn.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "(CNN)President Donald Trump's critics are increasingly focused on the question of which Democrat will challenge him for the presidency in 2020. It's an important question, but another one might be even more important: Regardless of who runs in 2020, if Trump loses, will he leave the Oval Office peacefully?

    Let's start with why we need to ask this question: Trump is increasingly proving himself to be a President eager to overstep his authority. Just last week, Trump displayed his willingness to invoke unprecedented presidential power to declare a national emergency utterly without justification. This week has brought a startling report from the New York Times that, for the past two years, Trump has tried to undermine the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other parts of the Justice Department in order to, in the words of the Times, "make the president's many legal problems go away." In light of these overreaching assertions of his own authority, it's at least plausible that Trump might attempt to cling to power in ways previously unimaginable by an American president.

    Thankfully, there are four steps that key actors across the American system of governance can take to get ahead of this possibility.

    Remember, when Trump was merely a private citizen running for President in 2016, he became the first presidential candidate in recent memory to refuse to commit that he'd honor the results of the election if he lost. Now, he occupies the Oval Office. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military on Earth. If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020, as he suggested he might in 2016, he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the US government potentially at his disposal.
    Trump's unrelenting assaults on the media and intelligence community, augmented by his baseless insistence on widespread voter fraud, have laid the groundwork for him to contest the election results in worrisome ways by undermining two institutions Americans would count on to validate those results.

    As the 2018 midterms approached, Trump appeared to preview exactly such behavior. He tweeted that he was "very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election" and "pushing very hard for the Democrats." Without pointing to even a shred of analysis from the intelligence community, media reports or any other sources, Trump seemed to dangle the notion that, if the elections went too badly for the Republicans, he might allege foreign interference with the vote tally to cast doubt on the validity of the results.
    In 2020, with his reelection on the line, the stakes for Trump himself are, of course, wildly bigger.
    All told, there's real reason to worry here. So, what can be done now to avoid a potential constitutional crisis and ensure that the 2020 election results -- whatever they might be -- are respected and that any transfer of power occurs peacefully?
    While many of us worry that President Trump has fallen woefully short in addressing foreign election interference through social media that can change American voters' minds, there's nonetheless an obvious imperative to respect the actual vote tally unless the intelligence community indicates that malicious actors have directly altered it (which would be unprecedented). Thankfully, there are four key sets of governmental actors across the United States that can commit now to certain steps that would help to isolate President Trump should he refuse to hand over power peacefully.

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    What if Trump refuses to accept defeat in 2020?
    Seriously?? It is YOU liberals who STILL haven't accepted the 2016 election results. It is YOU liberals who wanted to impeach Trump BEFORE he even took office. Maybe you should stop projecting your own issues onto others for a change??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're the party of sore losers. stfu and stop projecting, retard.
    Precisely this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "(CNN)President Donald Trump's critics are increasingly focused on the question of which Democrat will challenge him for the presidency in 2020. It's an important question, but another one might be even more important: Regardless of who runs in 2020, if Trump loses, will he leave the Oval Office peacefully?

    Let's start with why we need to ask this question: Trump is increasingly proving himself to be a President eager to overstep his authority. Just last week, Trump displayed his willingness to invoke unprecedented presidential power to declare a national emergency utterly without justification. This week has brought a startling report from the New York Times that, for the past two years, Trump has tried to undermine the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other parts of the Justice Department in order to, in the words of the Times, "make the president's many legal problems go away." In light of these overreaching assertions of his own authority, it's at least plausible that Trump might attempt to cling to power in ways previously unimaginable by an American president.

    Thankfully, there are four steps that key actors across the American system of governance can take to get ahead of this possibility.

    Remember, when Trump was merely a private citizen running for President in 2016, he became the first presidential candidate in recent memory to refuse to commit that he'd honor the results of the election if he lost. Now, he occupies the Oval Office. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military on Earth. If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020, as he suggested he might in 2016, he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the US government potentially at his disposal.
    Trump's unrelenting assaults on the media and intelligence community, augmented by his baseless insistence on widespread voter fraud, have laid the groundwork for him to contest the election results in worrisome ways by undermining two institutions Americans would count on to validate those results.

    As the 2018 midterms approached, Trump appeared to preview exactly such behavior. He tweeted that he was "very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election" and "pushing very hard for the Democrats." Without pointing to even a shred of analysis from the intelligence community, media reports or any other sources, Trump seemed to dangle the notion that, if the elections went too badly for the Republicans, he might allege foreign interference with the vote tally to cast doubt on the validity of the results.
    In 2020, with his reelection on the line, the stakes for Trump himself are, of course, wildly bigger.
    All told, there's real reason to worry here. So, what can be done now to avoid a potential constitutional crisis and ensure that the 2020 election results -- whatever they might be -- are respected and that any transfer of power occurs peacefully?
    While many of us worry that President Trump has fallen woefully short in addressing foreign election interference through social media that can change American voters' minds, there's nonetheless an obvious imperative to respect the actual vote tally unless the intelligence community indicates that malicious actors have directly altered it (which would be unprecedented). Thankfully, there are four key sets of governmental actors across the United States that can commit now to certain steps that would help to isolate President Trump should he refuse to hand over power peacefully.

    First is ... " (click the link to read more)

    What if Trump refuses to accept defeat in 2020?
    If Trump loses, he probably won't accept the results. He'll say the election was rigged by the Deep State and blah blah blah.
    Now that doesn't bother me, Trump is just one mentally challenged loser who's probably going to die from his drug addiction soon. What actually does scare me is that the entire Republican party will support Trump's decision to not accept the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Man, you know you're getting old when you hear the same things over and over. First it was Clinton wasn't going to leave office. Then it was Bush wasn't going to leave office. Now it's Trump isn't going to leave office...
    True, but none of the names you mentioned gave any indication that they if they lost an election it was "fixed" or "rigged." Some supporters may have, but never from the top down

    Hard to deny that Trump does have autocratic tendencies, and that he would say anything if he thought he could sell it that forty percent who wouldn't care if he shot Mother Theresa on 5th Avenue, so the topic post's question isn't all that inane, probably not realistic, but not totally irrelevant

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