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    "(CNN)President Donald Trump's critics are increasingly focused on the question of which Democrat will challenge him for the presidency in 2020. It's an important question, but another one might be even more important: Regardless of who runs in 2020, if Trump loses, will he leave the Oval Office peacefully?

    Let's start with why we need to ask this question: Trump is increasingly proving himself to be a President eager to overstep his authority. Just last week, Trump displayed his willingness to invoke unprecedented presidential power to declare a national emergency utterly without justification. This week has brought a startling report from the New York Times that, for the past two years, Trump has tried to undermine the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other parts of the Justice Department in order to, in the words of the Times, "make the president's many legal problems go away." In light of these overreaching assertions of his own authority, it's at least plausible that Trump might attempt to cling to power in ways previously unimaginable by an American president.

    Thankfully, there are four steps that key actors across the American system of governance can take to get ahead of this possibility.

    Remember, when Trump was merely a private citizen running for President in 2016, he became the first presidential candidate in recent memory to refuse to commit that he'd honor the results of the election if he lost. Now, he occupies the Oval Office. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military on Earth. If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020, as he suggested he might in 2016, he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the US government potentially at his disposal.
    Trump's unrelenting assaults on the media and intelligence community, augmented by his baseless insistence on widespread voter fraud, have laid the groundwork for him to contest the election results in worrisome ways by undermining two institutions Americans would count on to validate those results.

    As the 2018 midterms approached, Trump appeared to preview exactly such behavior. He tweeted that he was "very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election" and "pushing very hard for the Democrats." Without pointing to even a shred of analysis from the intelligence community, media reports or any other sources, Trump seemed to dangle the notion that, if the elections went too badly for the Republicans, he might allege foreign interference with the vote tally to cast doubt on the validity of the results.
    In 2020, with his reelection on the line, the stakes for Trump himself are, of course, wildly bigger.
    All told, there's real reason to worry here. So, what can be done now to avoid a potential constitutional crisis and ensure that the 2020 election results -- whatever they might be -- are respected and that any transfer of power occurs peacefully?
    While many of us worry that President Trump has fallen woefully short in addressing foreign election interference through social media that can change American voters' minds, there's nonetheless an obvious imperative to respect the actual vote tally unless the intelligence community indicates that malicious actors have directly altered it (which would be unprecedented). Thankfully, there are four key sets of governmental actors across the United States that can commit now to certain steps that would help to isolate President Trump should he refuse to hand over power peacefully.

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    Knowing Donald Trump as well as we do now, this is exactly what I would expect him to do.

    If he loses the 2020 election, and it's anywhere close, he is going to refuse to accept the results, refuse to leave the office, refuse to even arrange for an inauguration of the next President.

    It will be a big stink just like everything else with him has been right from the start. There will be a few months of some VERY interesting news. He will exhaust all his powers trying to undo the inevitable, but he won't be able to change the facts. He will call it fake news, call it a fake election, say Russia interfered to favor his opponent, whatever. Nothing will be off the table with him.

    But he will only be fooling himself and his most die hard cult followers.

    The next President would have to arrange their own inauguration without him.

    As of noon on January 20, 2021, Donald Trump would no longer be President. It doesn't matter if he won't leave the WH or the Oval Office. The military and all other security people would no longer answer to him, no longer have to follow his orders. Everyone is sworn to honor the Constitution and that means they answer to the current President, whomever that may be.

    Let's just hope there is no violence.

    And there may come a point where Donald Trump has to escorted out of the WH.

    And I hope law enforcement is there with handcuffs, ready to arrest him.
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    You still can't accept the fact he won in 2016. Will you become violent when he wins in 2020?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Knowing Donald Trump as well as we do now, this is exactly what I would expect him to do.

    If he loses the 2020 election, and it's anywhere close, he is going to refuse to accept the results, refuse to leave the office, refuse to even arrange for an inauguration of the next President.

    It will be a big stink just like everything else with him has been right from the start. There will be a few months of some VERY interesting news. He will exhaust all his powers trying to undo the inevitable, but he won't be able to change the facts. He will call it fake news, call it a fake election, say Russia interfered to favor his opponent, whatever. Nothing will be off the table with him.

    But he will only be fooling himself and his most die hard cult followers.

    The next President would have to arrange their own inauguration without him.

    As of noon on January 20, 2021, Donald Trump would no longer be President. It doesn't matter if he won't leave the WH or the Oval Office. The military and all other security people would no longer answer to him, no longer have to follow his orders. Everyone is sworn to honor the Constitution and that means they answer to the current President, whomever that may be.

    Let's just hope there is no violence.

    And there may come a point where Donald Trump has to escorted out of the WH.

    And I hope law enforcement is there with handcuffs, ready to arrest him.
    you're the party of sore losers. stfu and stop projecting, retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "(CNN)President Donald Trump's critics are increasingly focused on the question of which Democrat will challenge him for the presidency in 2020. It's an important question, but another one might be even more important: Regardless of who runs in 2020, if Trump loses, will he leave the Oval Office peacefully?

    Let's start with why we need to ask this question: Trump is increasingly proving himself to be a President eager to overstep his authority. Just last week, Trump displayed his willingness to invoke unprecedented presidential power to declare a national emergency utterly without justification. This week has brought a startling report from the New York Times that, for the past two years, Trump has tried to undermine the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other parts of the Justice Department in order to, in the words of the Times, "make the president's many legal problems go away." In light of these overreaching assertions of his own authority, it's at least plausible that Trump might attempt to cling to power in ways previously unimaginable by an American president.

    Thankfully, there are four steps that key actors across the American system of governance can take to get ahead of this possibility.

    Remember, when Trump was merely a private citizen running for President in 2016, he became the first presidential candidate in recent memory to refuse to commit that he'd honor the results of the election if he lost. Now, he occupies the Oval Office. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military on Earth. If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020, as he suggested he might in 2016, he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the US government potentially at his disposal.
    Trump's unrelenting assaults on the media and intelligence community, augmented by his baseless insistence on widespread voter fraud, have laid the groundwork for him to contest the election results in worrisome ways by undermining two institutions Americans would count on to validate those results.

    As the 2018 midterms approached, Trump appeared to preview exactly such behavior. He tweeted that he was "very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election" and "pushing very hard for the Democrats." Without pointing to even a shred of analysis from the intelligence community, media reports or any other sources, Trump seemed to dangle the notion that, if the elections went too badly for the Republicans, he might allege foreign interference with the vote tally to cast doubt on the validity of the results.
    In 2020, with his reelection on the line, the stakes for Trump himself are, of course, wildly bigger.
    All told, there's real reason to worry here. So, what can be done now to avoid a potential constitutional crisis and ensure that the 2020 election results -- whatever they might be -- are respected and that any transfer of power occurs peacefully?
    While many of us worry that President Trump has fallen woefully short in addressing foreign election interference through social media that can change American voters' minds, there's nonetheless an obvious imperative to respect the actual vote tally unless the intelligence community indicates that malicious actors have directly altered it (which would be unprecedented). Thankfully, there are four key sets of governmental actors across the United States that can commit now to certain steps that would help to isolate President Trump should he refuse to hand over power peacefully.

    First is ... " (click the link to read more)

    What if Trump refuses to accept defeat in 2020?
    You leftists have spent the last 3 years refusing to accept the results of presidential election. Now you are projecting your ad hominem subjective bullshit again......

    Yeah...that worked out quite well in 2016, lets use the same antiquated play book again. PROGRESSIVE MY ASS. The left has not had an original idea that even pretends to help the working poor in this nation since FDR was a baby.

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    Man, you know you're getting old when you hear the same things over and over. First it was Clinton wasn't going to leave office. Then it was Bush wasn't going to leave office. Now it's Trump isn't going to leave office...

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Man, you know you're getting old when you hear the same things over and over. First it was Clinton wasn't going to leave office. Then it was Bush wasn't going to leave office. Now it's Trump isn't going to leave office...
    President Trump has presented himself as an outsider who intended to 'shake things up.'

    He created a whole narrative before the 2016 election that it was rigged.

    He refuses to accept reality.

    He faces possible criminal charges the moment he is not President.

    2+2

    Knowing him as well as we do by now, I would actually be SURPRISED if he gracefully accepts a narrow defeat.

    It would make me wonder who he is and what happened to the real Donald Trump.
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    The only people unable to accept the results of elections are democrats

    What if democrat party members on JPP started threads and they weren’t based on a faulty premise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're the party of sore losers. stfu and stop projecting, retard.
    bump - this is the truth

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    That would be funny. Trump refusing to leave Office.
    'Rigged Election' ... 'Deep State' ... 'Witch Hunt' ... 'Fake News'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    President Trump has presented himself as an outsider who intended to 'shake things up.'

    He created a whole narrative before the 2016 election that it was rigged.

    He refuses to accept reality.

    He faces possible criminal charges the moment he is not President.

    2+2

    Knowing him as well as we do by now, I would actually be SURPRISED if he gracefully accepts a narrow defeat.

    It would make me wonder who he is and what happened to the real Donald Trump.
    Get your crying towels, Play Doh, coloring books, crayons, safe spaces and therapy pets before they're all gone....because you're gonna lose in 2020.....AGAIN!

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    You can count on that, that egotistical and narcissistic Trump is not going to be able accept defeat, and Trump will have to be psychically remove form the WH

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You still can't accept the fact he won in 2016. Will you become violent when he wins in 2020?
    Are you try to convince us or yourself??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Get your crying towels, Play Doh, coloring books, crayons, safe spaces and therapy pets before they're all gone....because you're gonna lose in 2020.....AGAIN!

    http://eagnews.org/universities-offe...t-by-election/
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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    That would be funny. Trump refusing to leave Office.
    'Rigged Election' ... 'Deep State' ... 'Witch Hunt' ... 'Fake News'.
    He will be reduced to babbling. It will be worse than Nixon. Ya know he wants to believe in himself so badly. If only his entire life wasn't so fake.
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