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    The fact is, Trump is not going to win over any Jewish voters he hasn't had from the beginning. Jewish voters are an incredibly small subset of the population, and they generally reside in liberal urban enclaves that are never going for Trump in any circumstance. So even if Trump did win the majority of Jewish voters somehow, it would not really give him an electoral college advantage.

    Nor is Trump genuinely concerned about anti-Semitism. If he was, he wouldn't have actively diverted federal resources away from fighting White Nationalist terrorism, nor would he have broad support among white nationalists. He wouldn’t have referred to Jews who vote Democrat as “disloyal” multiple times. He wouldn’t have propagated anti-Semitic tropes about “globalists.”

    What, then, are Trump's primary motivations? The first is to stifle pro-Palestinian activism and dissent. Basically, by both identifying Jews as a nationality, his goal is to paint all criticism of Israeli policy as anti-Semitic. This actually caters more to Trump's large Evangelical Christian base than his Jewish base; as Evangelicals are more likely than American Jews to support Israeli far-right politics and oppose any form of pro-Palestinian dissent.

    Most American Jews are pro-Israel, but we have a very different vision for Israel's future than Evangelicals. One in which a peaceful resolution to the conflict is brought about through a two-state solution. Therefore, we have been very critical of the far-right Israeli government run by the Likud party, because West Bank settlements make the two-state solution far less likely to happen. This executive order could theoretically silence Jewish criticism of Israeli policy as well (such as Jewish organizations such as J Street that operate on college campuses). Evangelicals generally tend to side with the settlement movement, because they believe it is part of the fulfillment of a biblical prophecy.

    The American right has been appropriating the term “anti-Semitism” in this regard for a while now. It's always been more about Evangelical Christians and their vision for Israel, than it has about either courting the Jewish vote or protecting Jews from anti-Semitism. Generally the tactic is to paint any influential person of Muslim dissent (such as Rashida Talib) as anti-Semitic; since Islamophobia is unfortunately quite common in Evangelical circles. The secondary goal is to try and create divisions between Jewish and Muslim communities; because the right would prefer that marginalized groups are spending their time infighting as opposed to working against their common oppressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Donald Trump is very pro Israel and pro Jews. His daughter even converted to Judaism.
    I know, most of his puppet-masters are Jewish. However, the Alt-Right still support Trump.

    If Islam was conservative, Tlaib and Omar would be republicans.
    Tlaib and Omar are only two Muslims. The majority of Muslims are conservative, which you can tell from looking at Muslim countries.

    Theocracies ARE socialist.
    Depends how you define Socialism. A lot of Conservatives would consider you a Socialist for wanting the government to control our media.

    JPP Liberals have a very very special intense hatred for Christianity.
    Which ones? The only one I've seen who hates Christianity is Guno.

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    the zionism is my least favorite thing about orange man.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I know, most of his puppet-masters are Jewish. However, the Alt-Right still support Trump.



    Tlaib and Omar are only two Muslims. The majority of Muslims are conservative, which you can tell from looking at Muslim countries.



    Depends how you define Socialism. A lot of Conservatives would consider you a Socialist for wanting the government to control our media.

    Which ones? The only one I've seen who hates Christianity is Guno.
    The Alt right fringe will support anyone who opposes the Hate Whitey racist dem party. Even a pro Jewish man like DJT. Their only political plank is identity politics.

    The majority of Muslim theocracies are monarchies. Monarchy is just the old fashioned word for Socialism.

    Dems worship at the altar of Socialist State media and their "official" anonymous sources.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The Alt right fringe will support anyone who opposes the Hate Whitey racist dem party. Even a pro Jewish man like DJT. Their only political plank is identity politics.
    Moving the goal posts. The point is that the Alt-Right is right-wing, not left-wing.

    The majority of Muslim theocracies are monarchies. Monarchy is just the old fashioned word for Socialism.
    If that's the case, then right-wing politics leads to Socialism. You're an example of that. You want the government to control the media.

    Dems worship at the altar of Socialist State media and their "official" anonymous sources.
    Do they? Which Democrats want us to have state media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    It does NOT put any limits on Free Speech, dickhead.
    Of course it does. You've been brain-washed by the Izrael lobby. You are now an Izrael-Firster.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Where's the E.O protecting Muslims from violent Jews ?
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Wow you think Nazi's are running Israel. You aren't that bright are you.
    Pretty bright, since you ask. A section of Jewish opinion, seeing what Hitler did, decided that was the only way to survive: thus 'Israel', as you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Are you really that clueless? They are not protecting Jews, they are giving cover to Israeli right wing polices. I'm Jewish but my nationality is not! I have many issues with Israel's policies so that would make me anti-Semitic? Idiots!
    If leftists were running Israel, it would still be defending itself against terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    If leftists were running Israel, it would still be defending itself against terrorism.
    Always remember the British mugs who made this Nazi state possible by defeating a Palestinian uprising. As a reward they were shot in the back by the intellectual precursors of Netenyahu and their bodies booby-trapped to kill more of us. Obviously the 'State' then created by terror and mass expulsions of the Palestinian population is deeply racist and will, as soon as it can get Trump's permission, set up extermination camps, as did its Great Model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Always remember the British mugs who made this Nazi state possible by defeating a Palestinian uprising. As a reward they were shot in the back by the intellectual precursors of Netenyahu and their bodies booby-trapped to kill more of us. Obviously the 'State' then created by terror and mass expulsions of the Palestinian population is deeply racist and will, as soon as it can get Trump's permission, set up extermination camps, as did its Great Model.
    The West has been having problems with the Muslims for a lot longer than anti-Semitic leftists have been handwringing over Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    The West has been having problems with the Muslims for a lot longer than anti-Semitic leftists have been handwringing over Israel.
    What the fuck do you know about it, Yank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Always remember the British mugs who made this Nazi state possible by defeating a Palestinian uprising. As a reward they were shot in the back by the intellectual precursors of Netenyahu and their bodies booby-trapped to kill more of us. Obviously the 'State' then created by terror and mass expulsions of the Palestinian population is deeply racist and will, as soon as it can get Trump's permission, set up extermination camps, as did its Great Model.
    Used to be interesting how, as this anti-Semitic diatribe where Nazis V2 bombs killed thousands of Brits that now Israel is the Nazi state. When exactly did they attack Great Britain?Nearly as much suicidal Islamophobia Christiananality pedophilia business super egos as the Christian Nation SCOTUS religion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydancin View Post
    Used to be interesting how, as this anti-Semitic diatribe where Nazis V2 bombs killed thousands of Brits that now Israel is the Nazi state. When exactly did they attack Great Britain?Nearly as much suicidal Islamophobia Christiananality pedophilia business super egos as the Christian Nation SCOTUS religion..
    they're nazis because of the inherent racism of their religion, and their treatment of others.
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    and yes, rabbis suck baby penis at a briss.
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