USFREEDOM911 (12-11-2019)
Thank you for serving in our government. Thank you for making your life a public spectacle, giving up your privacy and serving our country. It is a very great honor to be chosen and to rise to the demands of doing the work that makes our nation possible. I appreciate all you have gone through and I am grateful.
I hope you really meant it when you swore to protect our Constitution:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."
I don't see a single word in there about protecting and defending the President.
You swore to support and defend the Constitution. The Constitution includes the power to impeach the President when it has become clear that the President's actions are in violation of his oath, and that to allow him to stay in office would cause further harm to the Constitution. Only YOU can make the decision to remove the President. WE, THE PEOPLE, all of us, not just Republicans, but ALL OF US, are counting on you to do your duty. We are NOT asking you to serve your party or look out for your own political future. We are especially counting on you to do your duty OVER any personal or party considerations. We are counting on your solemn word to bear true faith in YOUR OBLIGATION without 'purpose of evasion,' (ie partisanship) to show your allegiance to the Constitution.
That is what you swore to do.
If this President is allowed to get away with stonewalling Congress then that means any President is unimpeachable for as long as he can drag out subpoena battles in courts. That is unacceptable. That increases the power of the Presidency and weakens the power of the US House of Representatives. That upsets the balance of powers and it weakens the Constitution you swore to support, defend and bear allegiance to, with no partisan consideration. The USA is 'your party' now.
I hope you consider very well how history will look back on the decision you will soon have to make. I want you to do the right thing. And I have no doubt that if you do, you will NEVER regret it. There may be costs, but they are worth it for the peace of mind of knowing you did the right thing. Now is the time to do the right thing for your country, the country you serve.
Thank you. We're counting on you.
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USFREEDOM911 (12-11-2019)
Cypress (12-25-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-11-2019), Trumpet (12-11-2019)
I would expect most Republican Senators to completely ignore this.
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USFREEDOM911 (12-11-2019)
you mean partisan douchebag rant
Truth Detector (12-11-2019)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
canceled.2021.2 (12-13-2019), Celticguy (12-11-2019), FastLane (12-11-2019)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
FastLane (12-11-2019)
CharacterAssassin (12-29-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-11-2019)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
canceled.2021.2 (12-13-2019)
I would expect Trump supporters to not care about the Constitution when they have choose between protecting the Constitution and protecting Trump.
They really don't care about the United States at all. They are too mesmerized by the cult messaging. They've got their priorities straight. First it's Trump, then anything else such as the Constitution.
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ThatOwlWoman (12-11-2019)
Hello FastLane,
Fastlane, you're taking a disrespectful turn here. It's rude to barge into a conversation with unfounded accusations from another thread. If you wish for us to continue having discussions this animosity must end. I've done nothing to you, said nothing about you. I've only expressed my view, to which I am entitled. If you feel otherwise you are welcome to state your own view. Making personal attacks is not welcome. You are getting the benefit of the doubt one last time here. As I explained previously, my rules are more strict than the site rules. If you want me to talk to you they will have to be observed. This has never been a problem for good respectful people. I hope that includes you.
Last edited by PoliTalker; 12-11-2019 at 08:04 PM.
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Loving91390 (12-12-2019)
I used to hear/see the word "Constitution" thrown about liberally (see what I did there? lol) when the occupant of our WH had a (D) after his name. It was thrown about by Reichwingers who claimed on a nearly daily basis that Obama was somehow destroying it by every single action and word. You don't hear them mention that formerly-sacred document any more. I wonder why.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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