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    The Case for Impeachment Is Overwhelming ~ The American Conservative

    The House Judiciary Committee has released the two articles of impeachment that it has drawn up against the president. The two articles cover only the president’s abuses of power to solicit favors for his personal benefit and his obstruction of Congress in order to conceal those abuses. The first article of impeachment concludes by saying:

    Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

    The case for Trump’s impeachment seemed quite strong more than two months ago, and the evidence provided to the House’s impeachment inquiry has strengthened it further. The president’s abuse of power is not in dispute. It is clear that he used the powers of his office in an attempt to extract a corrupt favor for his personal benefit, and this is precisely the sort of offense that impeachment was designed to keep in check. It doesn’t matter if the attempt succeeded. All that matters is that the attempt was made. It is also undeniable that he has sought to impede the investigation into his misconduct. The president has committed the offenses he is accused of committing, and the House should approve both articles of impeachment.


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    The American Conservative exists to promote a “Main Street” conservatism that opposes unchecked power in government and business; promotes the flourishing of families and communities through vibrant markets and free people; and embraces realism and restraint in foreign affairs based on America’s vital national interests.
    We pursue this mission by publishing hundreds of essays, articles, and blog posts each year in The American Conservative (TAC) print magazine and at theamericanconservative.com, by training and providing an outlet for young journalists, by informing policy-makers and congressional staffers on the Hill, and by hosting special conferences and events.

    The American Conservative is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, 501(c)(3) organization that presents a measured, pertinent, principled conservatism for our time. We believe in constitutional government, fiscal prudence, sound monetary policy, clearly delineated borders, protection of civil liberties, authentically free markets, and restraint in foreign policy mixed with diplomatic acuity. We adhere closely to our institutional maxim: ideas over ideology; principles over party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I guess the Russians haven't gotten to them yet
    true American conservatism is on its knees much like Lindsay Graham at Mara Lago

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    Majority of voters now oppose impeachment: Quinnipiac poll By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 10, 2019
    A majority of Americans now oppose impeaching and removing President Trump from office, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll Tuesday that signals Democrats’ month of hearings to make their case has failed.
    Quinnipiac found 51% of registered voters surveyed said they don’t want to see the president ousted through impeachment. That’s the first time the number has been above 50% since before Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced an impeachment inquiry in late September.
    Another 45% do want to see the president impeached and forced out.
    washingtontimes.com

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    Find me about 20 in the Senate. Prove it. The TRAITORS for PUTIN PARTY. That's what they are.

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    There was no obstruction.

    'It's your abuse of power': Impeachment witness rips Congress ...
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com › news › its-your-abuse-of-power-i...
    7 days ago - Professor Jonathan Turley criticized Congress for implying that President Trump was obstructing justice by going to the Supreme Court for rulings about impeachment. Turley was asked about the recent court ruling where White House counsel Don McGahn was ordered to testify after ...

    No obstruction...except by the House Democrats.
    Right, Professor Turley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    The Case for Impeachment Is Overwhelming ~ The American Conservative

    The House Judiciary Committee has released the two articles of impeachment that it has drawn up against the president. The two articles cover only the president’s abuses of power to solicit favors for his personal benefit and his obstruction of Congress in order to conceal those abuses. The first article of impeachment concludes by saying:

    Wherefore President Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

    The case for Trump’s impeachment seemed quite strong more than two months ago, and the evidence provided to the House’s impeachment inquiry has strengthened it further. The president’s abuse of power is not in dispute. It is clear that he used the powers of his office in an attempt to extract a corrupt favor for his personal benefit, and this is precisely the sort of offense that impeachment was designed to keep in check. It doesn’t matter if the attempt succeeded. All that matters is that the attempt was made. It is also undeniable that he has sought to impede the investigation into his misconduct. The president has committed the offenses he is accused of committing, and the House should approve both articles of impeachment.


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    The American Conservative exists to promote a “Main Street” conservatism that opposes unchecked power in government and business; promotes the flourishing of families and communities through vibrant markets and free people; and embraces realism and restraint in foreign affairs based on America’s vital national interests.
    We pursue this mission by publishing hundreds of essays, articles, and blog posts each year in The American Conservative (TAC) print magazine and at theamericanconservative.com, by training and providing an outlet for young journalists, by informing policy-makers and congressional staffers on the Hill, and by hosting special conferences and events.

    The American Conservative is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, 501(c)(3) organization that presents a measured, pertinent, principled conservatism for our time. We believe in constitutional government, fiscal prudence, sound monetary policy, clearly delineated borders, protection of civil liberties, authentically free markets, and restraint in foreign policy mixed with diplomatic acuity. We adhere closely to our institutional maxim: ideas over ideology; principles over party.


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    ouch

    The president doesn’t have a credible line of defense left. That is why his apologists in Congress and elsewhere have been reduced to making increasingly absurd and desperate claims. The president’s defenders want to distract attention from the fact that the president abused his power, violated the public’s trust, and broke his oath of office, but these distractions are irrelevant.
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    There was no obstruction.

    'It's your abuse of power': Impeachment witness rips Congress ...
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com › news › its-your-abuse-of-power-i...
    7 days ago - Professor Jonathan Turley criticized Congress for implying that President Trump was obstructing justice by going to the Supreme Court for rulings about impeachment. Turley was asked about the recent court ruling where White House counsel Don McGahn was ordered to testify after ...

    No obstruction...except by the House Democrats.
    Right, Professor Turley.
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”
    ____________

    Obstruction of justice - 18 USC 1501-1521
    Witness intimidation 18 USC 1512
    Emoluments - US Constitution
    Abuse of power - no statute. Merely reason to be removed from office
    Extortion – 18 USC 112
    Solicitation of something of value from a foreign entity - 11CFR 110.2 and 11 CFR 300.2

    ______________

    Extortion – 4 elements
    Threat – withholding $400 million
    Intent – Forcing public announcement of investigations
    Fear – of loss of funding for defensive weapons against the Russians
    Property – the thing of value is the investigations of 2016 tampering and the Bidens

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    How do the pigfucker president's actions NOT constitute impeachable offenses?
    The facts are not in question.
    Those very acts were specifically defined by the founders as "high crimes and misdemeanors."

    "We've finely got a cretin like us, even worse than Reagan and Dubya, representing our kind in the Oval Office. Now they want to get rid of him just because
    he's a criminal like us." That's the ONLY Republican argument.

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    There was no obstruction.

    'It's your abuse of power': Impeachment witness rips Congress ...
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com › news › its-your-abuse-of-power-i...
    7 days ago - Professor Jonathan Turley criticized Congress for implying that President Trump was obstructing justice by going to the Supreme Court for rulings about impeachment. Turley was asked about the recent court ruling where White House counsel Don McGahn was ordered to testify after ...

    No obstruction...except by the House Democrats.
    Right, Professor Turley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Majority of voters now oppose impeachment: Quinnipiac poll By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 10, 2019
    A majority of Americans now oppose impeaching and removing President Trump from office, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll Tuesday that signals Democrats’ month of hearings to make their case has failed.
    Quinnipiac found 51% of registered voters surveyed said they don’t want to see the president ousted through impeachment. That’s the first time the number has been above 50% since before Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced an impeachment inquiry in late September.
    Another 45% do want to see the president impeached and forced out.
    washingtontimes.com
    so what's the MOE on this poll?

    too easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    There was no obstruction.

    'It's your abuse of power': Impeachment witness rips Congress ...
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com › news › its-your-abuse-of-power-i...
    7 days ago - Professor Jonathan Turley criticized Congress for implying that President Trump was obstructing justice by going to the Supreme Court for rulings about impeachment. Turley was asked about the recent court ruling where White House counsel Don McGahn was ordered to testify after ...

    No obstruction...except by the House Democrats.
    Right, Professor Turley.
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”
    ____________

    Obstruction of justice - 18 USC 1501-1521
    Witness intimidation 18 USC 1512
    Emoluments - US Constitution
    Abuse of power - no statute. Merely reason to be removed from office
    Extortion – 18 USC 112
    Solicitation of something of value from a foreign entity - 11CFR 110.2 and 11 CFR 300.2

    ______________

    Extortion – 4 elements
    Threat – withholding $400 million
    Intent – Forcing public announcement of investigations
    Fear – of loss of funding for defensive weapons against the Russians
    Property – the thing of value is the investigations of 2016 tampering and the Bidens

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    How do the pigfucker president's actions NOT constitute impeachable offenses?
    The facts are not in question.
    Those very acts were specifically defined by the founders as "high crimes and misdemeanors."

    "We've finely got a cretin like us, even worse than Reagan and Dubya, representing our kind in the Oval Office. Now they want to get rid of him just because
    he's a criminal like us." That's the ONLY Republican argument.
    I argue you are a stupid old jackass with shit for brains and your posts are the proof you evil Jackass!

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