President Trump and Russian Lavrov discuss 2020 in Oval Office.

[Jack]

Well, this is reassuring.

"During an Oval Office meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Trump “warned against any Russian attempts to interfere in United States elections,” according to the official White House readout of the private meeting."
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...-russian-envoy

[Jack]

"Trump has been loath to accept the U.S. intelligence community’s findings, corroborated by the 22-month special counsel investigation, that Russia sought to help his campaign by influencing American voters in 2016 with hacked Democratic Party emails and disinformation about Hillary Clinton."

Yeah. Why believe the American Intelligence Apparatus?

[Jack]

"Earlier in the day, Lavrov had told State Department reporters that the Kremlin had not interfered in 2016."
“We have highlighted once again that all speculation about our alleged interference in domestic processes in the U.S. are baseless,” Lavrov said at a joint news conference with Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo. “There are no facts that would support that.... No one has given us this proof because it simply does not exist.”

See. The Russian guy right there said there no collusion. It was Fake News. Basically ... a Witch Hunt.

[Jack]

"Pompeo implied that he disagreed with Lavrov’s characterization, adding that U.S. officials had shared evidence of Russian misconduct during the election."
“We think we’ve shared plenty of facts to show what happened in the 2016 election with our Russian counterparts,” Pompeo said. “We don’t think there’s any mistake about what really transpired there.”

Hmmmm ...

... let's see ... believe the Russian guy ... or the American Intelligence Community?

[anatta]

"Trump has been loath to accept the U.S. intelligence community’s findings, corroborated by the 22-month special counsel investigation, that Russia sought to help his campaign by influencing American voters in 2016 with hacked Democratic Party emails and disinformation about Hillary Clinton."

Yeah. Why believe the American Intelligence Apparatus?

why believe Mueller? It was a slipshod report.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html
The Mueller report claims that the interference operation occurred "principally" on two fronts:

Russian military intelligence officers hacked and leaked embarrassing Democratic Party documents,
and a government-linked troll farm orchestrated a sophisticated and far-reaching social media campaign
that denigrated Hillary Clinton and promoted Trump.

But a close examination of the report shows that none of those headline assertions are supported
by the report’s evidence or other publicly available sources.
They are further undercut by investigative shortcomings and the conflicts of interest of key players involved:.....

[Jack]

why believe Mueller? It was a slipshod report.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html
The Mueller report claims that the interference operation occurred "principally" on two fronts:

Russian military intelligence officers hacked and leaked embarrassing Democratic Party documents,
and a government-linked troll farm orchestrated a sophisticated and far-reaching social media campaign
that denigrated Hillary Clinton and promoted Trump.

But a close examination of the report shows that none of those headline assertions are supported
by the report’s evidence or other publicly available sources.
They are further undercut by investigative shortcomings and the conflicts of interest of key players involved:.....

Yeah. Sure. (are you quoting Lavrov here?)

[canceled.2021.2]

Good.

[anatta]

Yeah. Sure. (are you quoting Lavrov here?)

clik a link sometimes if you want to know.. it's RCP investigations -and it points out the slipshod report methodology
just in case you missed muellers no nothing testimony

[Darth Omar]

"Pompeo implied that he disagreed with Lavrov’s characterization, adding that U.S. officials had shared evidence of Russian misconduct during the election."
“We think we’ve shared plenty of facts to show what happened in the 2016 election with our Russian counterparts,” Pompeo said. “We don’t think there’s any mistake about what really transpired there.”

Hmmmm ...

... let's see ... believe the Russian guy ... or the American Intelligence Community?

Unfortunately, that’s become a legitimate question lol.

With luck ‘things will be fixed’. I think it’s time to accept the fact that the Russian hysteria was overblown. It was never plausible to think the Russians could affect a national election in terms of *outcome*. Even Mullet stopped well short of that claim. Nate Silver stopped short of making it even during the height of the hysteria.

The Russians did what the Russians always do. If we catch them doing it again—sanction them.

In the meantime, Democrats can stop running politicians that have ‘things the Russians or Wiki Leaks can get ahold of’. Or they can install Spyware on their servers. There’s no need to go to war with Russia over it.

[Earl]

"Earlier in the day, Lavrov had told State Department reporters that the Kremlin had not interfered in 2016."
“We have highlighted once again that all speculation about our alleged interference in domestic processes in the U.S. are baseless,” Lavrov said at a joint news conference with Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo. “There are no facts that would support that.... No one has given us this proof because it simply does not exist.”

See. The Russian guy right there said there no collusion. It was Fake News. Basically ... a Witch Hunt.

Mueller and Barr said there was no collusion. Lavrov told the truth.

[Jack]

Unfortunately, that’s become a legitimate question lol.

With luck ‘things will be fixed’. I think it’s time to accept the fact that the Russian hysteria was overblown. It was never plausible to think the Russians could affect a national election in terms of *outcome*. Even Mullet stopped well short of that claim. Nate Silver stopped short of making it even during the height of the hysteria.

The Russians did what the Russians always do. If we catch them doing it again—sanction them.

In the meantime, Democrats can stop running politicians that have ‘things the Russians or Wiki Leaks can get ahold of’. Or they can install Spyware on their servers. There’s no need to go to war with Russia over it.

Darth: "It was never plausible to think the Russians could affect a national election ..."
Jack: Darth, let me ask you a question. Do you think the USA interferes or meddles in other country's Elections?

[Grokmaster]

Well, this is reassuring.

"During an Oval Office meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Trump “warned against any Russian attempts to interfere in United States elections,” according to the official White House readout of the private meeting."
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...-russian-envoy

LET US KNOW WHEN THIS HAPPENS, LIKE WHEN OBAMA "DICUSSED" the 2012 ELECTION, AFTER HE CHIDED ROMNEY FOR CITING RUSSIA AS A THREAT:

[Cinnabar]

"Trump has been loath to accept the U.S. intelligence community’s findings, corroborated by the 22-month special counsel investigation, that Russia sought to help his campaign by influencing American voters in 2016 with hacked Democratic Party emails and disinformation about Hillary Clinton."

Yeah. Why believe the American Intelligence Apparatus?

When he has been taking money for decades from the Russkie oligarchs he asks them how high when they order Trump to jump.

[Cinnabar]

LET US KNOW WHEN THIS HAPPENS, LIKE WHEN OBAMA "DICUSSED" the 2012 ELECTION, AFTER HE CHIDED ROMNEY FOR CITING RUSSIA AS A THREAT:

Even as a Russkie asset troll you are a moron. How is this video you posted incriminating dum dum? I would not pay you a dime for trolling because you are pathetic at it dum dum.

[Jack]

[QUOTE=Grokmaster;3389998]
LET US KNOW WHEN THIS HAPPENS, LIKE WHEN OBAMA "DICUSSED" the 2012 ELECTION, AFTER HE CHIDED ROMNEY FOR CITING RUSSIA AS A THREAT:


... but, but, but Obama.