Why The Democrats Are Right

[PoliTalker]

The Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong about the impeachment issue because in order to believe the Republican side of the story it is necessary to block out certain points made by the Democrats.

In order to believe the Democratic side of the issue no point made by the Republicans needs to be ignored at all. There is an explanation for every single point raised by the Republicans, which either disputes it or simply proves it wrong.

Everything which has been said can be considered, and the impartial observer would still conclude that the Democrats have made their case for impeachment.

For example, Republicans have said repeatedly that the aid was given, and Zelenski got a meeting with Trump.

That's not exactly true. The aid was only released after the WB exposed the scandal, and Zelenski never got the WH meeting which was promised.

Next up, we have the 'only hearsay evidence' claim, which is false. Some of the evidence is direct evidence, and for the first time ever in history we have a completely recalcitrant President who has simply refused to cooperate with impeachment. Nixon turn over tapes, Clinton answered questions. Trump has flatly refused to cooperate. He knows that if Democrats try to force him to comply with subpoenas that he can drag it out in court past the 2020 election. (Trump's M.O.) Since this impeachment is about abuse of office involving rigging the 2020 election, it cannot wait until then. And it doesn't have to. Democrats have made their case.

Then there is this idea that the impeachment is being rushed. Not so. The Clinton impeachment took 73 days, this one just went into the 76th day. It is already more lengthy than when Republicans impeached Bill Clinton.

No QPQ? Yes, there was. Right there in the phone call, combined with the other evidence. It has been shown that Zelenski understood the WH meeting was conditioned on the investigations. He said in the phone call that he looked forward to meeting Trump at the WH and that he intended to look into the investigations. 17 witnesses all filled in the the same story that the aid was halted for the purpose of forcing the announcement of the Biden investigation.

Trump abused the power of his office, obstructed Justice, obstructed Congress, intimidated witnesses, and leveraged aid in return for a political favor by a foreign nation in order to rig the 2020 election, and he did so while pretending to work for we the people as he really did his own personal business. That behavior is unacceptable. He must be impeached and removed. We can not let this go, this cannot be OK for a President.

The Democrats have made their case, and it is rock solid. There can be no dispute, only obfuscation, which is all the Republicans have offered.

Republicans do not say word one about the obstruction or intimidation of witnesses. They have to ignore those charges to try to make their case, which is why they can't do it.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Outstanding take-down.

[Nordberg]

The Repubs always knew the truth. they were trying to get away with it so Trump can steal for the billionaires for another term. Does anyone think Lindsey is telling the truth now but was lying when he talked about him before the election? Jeb said trump would be the chaos president. Think he got that right?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Norberg,

The Repubs always knew the truth. they were trying to get away with it so Trump can steal for the billionaires for another term. Does anyone think Lindsey is telling the truth now but was lying when he talked about him before the election? Jeb said trump would be the chaos president. Think he got that right?

We all wish that were the case.

they were trying to get away with it so Trump can steal for the billionaires for another term. Does anyone think Lindsey is telling the truth now but was lying when he talked about him before the election? Jeb said trump would be the chaos president. Think he got that right?

Republicans who fought against Trump during the campaign and then came across at some point have fooled themselves that this is OK. They have blocked out everything they held as objectionable to his candidacy and 'bought in,' lock stock and barrel. They have convinced themselves Trump is best for the country, so they simply block out the troubling information which challenges that. It is a case of mass hypnosis, all part of the cult. They no long know what they once knew, and they don't know it on purpose. They are left with (conveniently) Trump giving them everything they wanted, namely low taxes and a great economy. They simply cannot accept that it has come at the price of our Constitution. They see the good as so good that it is worth blocking out the bad.

[CFM]

Outstanding take-down.

Pucker up, whore.

I command you to show your cowardice.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

The Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong about the impeachment issue because in order to believe the Republican side of the story it is necessary to block out certain points made by the Democrats.

In order to believe the Democratic side of the issue no point made by the Republicans needs to be ignored at all. There is an explanation for every single point raised by the Republicans, which either disputes it or simply proves it wrong.

Everything which has been said can be considered, and the impartial observer would still conclude that the Democrats have made their case for impeachment.

For example, Republicans have said repeatedly that the aid was given, and Zelenski got a meeting with Trump.

That's not exactly true. The aid was only released after the WB exposed the scandal, and Zelenski never got the WH meeting which was promised.

Next up, we have the 'only hearsay evidence' claim, which is false. Some of the evidence is direct evidence, and for the first time ever in history we have a completely recalcitrant President who has simply refused to cooperate with impeachment. Nixon turn over tapes, Clinton answered questions. Trump has flatly refused to cooperate. He knows that if Democrats try to force him to comply with subpoenas that he can drag it out in court past the 2020 election. (Trump's M.O.) Since this impeachment is about abuse of office involving rigging the 2020 election, it cannot wait until then. And it doesn't have to. Democrats have made their case.

Then there is this idea that the impeachment is being rushed. Not so. The Clinton impeachment took 73 days, this one just went into the 76th day. It is already more lengthy than when Republicans impeached Bill Clinton.

No QPQ? Yes, there was. Right there in the phone call, combined with the other evidence. It has been shown that Zelenski understood the WH meeting was conditioned on the investigations. He said in the phone call that he looked forward to meeting Trump at the WH and that he intended to look into the investigations. 17 witnesses all filled in the the same story that the aid was halted for the purpose of forcing the announcement of the Biden investigation.

Trump abused the power of his office, obstructed Justice, obstructed Congress, intimidated witnesses, and leveraged aid in return for a political favor by a foreign nation in order to rig the 2020 election, and he did so while pretending to work for we the people as he really did his own personal business. That behavior is unacceptable. He must be impeached and removed. We can not let this go, this cannot be OK for a President.

The Democrats have made their case, and it is rock solid. There can be no dispute, only obfuscation, which is all the Republicans have offered.

Republicans do not say word one about the obstruction or intimidation of witnesses. They have to ignore those charges to try to make their case, which is why they can't do it.

you have to ignore operation crossfire hurricane, and all obvious evidence of deep state hatred of, bias against, and stated ill intent towards potus.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

the rot goes alll the way to obama.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

no dem has the balls to come on this thread and call "crossfire hurricane" fake news. I dare you.

[Bigdog]

Zelensky did nothing about the favor requests. He knew the 2 favors were not part of the deal.



A "Favor", by definition, is an act of kindness that requires no renumeration, no exchange, no contract.

[PoliTalker]

The House hearings were a prime example of this.

Democrats focused on the facts.

Republicans hardly tried to dispute the facts but instead talked mostly about Democrats.

Hello. Democrats were not the topic of debate. President Trump's performance was.

It's like Republicans have gone to the Roger Stone school of 'why Nixon was really innocent.'

[Jarod]

The Republicans do not care about being right, they only care about keeping Trump in power, that is all that matters to them.

They are not fighting impeachment because they honestly believe it is wrong. They know the checks and balances our Constitution are important, they just don't want their guy to be subjected to them. They would support suspending Democracy and making Rump king for life if it were an option, it might be if he is reelected.

You can explain to them all day how constitutionally correct this impeachment is, how it is really the Congress's duty to stand up to him, they wont care.

Trump had committed these crimes in the past, and says he will keep doing it, that is when impeachment becomes necessary. He asked Russia for help in 2017 and Ukraine and China for help in 2019. Trump is not confident enough to stand on his own, he has to cheat to win.

[Truth Detector]

The Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong ...............

Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment

[Truth Detector]

Outstanding take-down.

It was stupid. But then, you're an idiot.

[Truth Detector]

The Repubs always knew the truth. they were trying to get away with it so Trump can steal for the billionaires for another term.................

[Truth Detector]

Democrats focused on the facts.

Impeachment: HYPOCRITE Pelosi