Earl (12-10-2019)
Sure unless you count things like it proving that the DNC-funded misinformation this hoax was based on was fraudulently sold as vetted to a federal judge (to justify illegal spying) despite everyone involved already knowing it was debunked horseshit...or it accidentally proving that Democrats colluded with Ukraine...or it proving that Democrats withheld evidence and lied to the FBI and DOJ.
Except for all the Democrat crimes it proved, it really didn't prove any Democrat crimes.
Just because the report accidentally or inadvertently proved Democrat crimes doesn't mean they weren't proven. You just have to be able to think beyond what you're spoon-fed.
You should try it.
Well, that and his innocence, sure.
Newsflash: There was no evidence of collusion ever found. And going to court to fight witch hunts is not obstruction. Trump's transparency throughout this has been literally unprecedented...the complete opposite of Obama's least transparent administration ever (contrary to everything Obama promised).
Say the only people actually trying to rewrite history.
Attachment 13251
Earl (12-10-2019)
Shortly after the Horowitz report was released Monday afternoon, Attorney General William Barr lambasted the FBI, saying it conducted "an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken."
The Horowitz report actually says that the bar for opening such an investigation is relatively low and concludes that the initial information "was sufficient to satisfy the low threshold established by the [Justice] Department and the FBI."
The next report
Nonetheless, Barr earlier this year ordered another investigation into the Russia investigation.
This one is being carried out by the U.S. attorney for Connecticut, John Durham, and has a broader scope that will also examine the CIA's role.
While Durham's investigation is still underway, he took the unusual step of commenting publicly and suggesting he was heading toward different conclusions from Horowitz's.
DOJ Watchdog On Russia Probe: No Evidence Of Bias, But Problems With Surveillance
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DOJ Watchdog On Russia Probe: No Evidence Of Bias, But Problems With Surveillance
"Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report's conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened," he said.
There's no word on when Durham's report will be completed.
As Democrats formally call for President Trump's removal from office over his "corruptly soliciting" help from Ukraine in an attempt to smear Democratic rivals, the president and Republicans are pushing a counternarrative that focuses on the way the Russia investigation was carried out."
npr.org
"It's a disgrace what's happened with the things that were done to our country," Trump said in response to the Horowitz findings. "It's incredible, far worse than what I ever thought possible."
It appears that Mr. Barr and Mr.Durham are coming...with criminal indictments.
They disagree with the IG and they are the final decision makers.
artichoke (12-10-2019)
Democrats accusing ANYONE else of "screaming and crying?"
Attachment 13254
Pointing out the gaping holes in the IG concluding the opposite of what all the evidence shows isn't doing what Democrats do. That isn't "screaming and crying" over losing an election for three years straight.
Stretch (12-10-2019)
“The press corps is portraying Monday’s report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz as absolution for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, but don’t believe it. The report relates a trail of terrible judgment and violations of process that should shock Americans who thought better of their premier law-enforcement agency,” The Wall Street Journal editorial board writes.
“It’s now official: Russia, Russia, Russia really was fake news from the start. There was no factual basis for the FBI to spy on Donald Trump’s campaign . . . J. Edgar Hoover can finally rest in peace. James Comey is now revealed to be the dirtiest cop ever to run the FBI,” Michael Goodwin writes in the New York Post.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Um...nope. We were well aware from the beginning.
He never did that to begin with. Didn't you see the Mueller report findings?
You're thinking of DEMOCRATS...you know, the people who colluded with Russia to manufacture the BS dossier? The people who colluded with Ukraine to influence Election 2016?
Attachment 13256
Norms, yes (why he was elected). Laws, no.
If restoring it from the Obama disaster is "threatening to harm" it, sure.
For eight years straight until 2016, sure.
Only for those who think us losing and being exploited into ruin is "better."
That's the beauty of operating on facts and evidence (aka, being a non-liberal). You don't HAVE to ask anyone to take your word for ANYTHING when you can PROVE what your're saying with actual, independently verifiable evidence.
Attachment 13259
Funny you should say this...because this entire scandal is about them launching a BS investigation without anything but debunked DNC-funded propaganda.
Not even entirely sure what Infowars is, but show me where I ever once used them as a source.
Meanwhile, your fair and balanced media outlets led you to fall for:
-the Russia collusion hoax,
-the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax,
-the Covington Catholic hoax,
-the Roy Moore pedophile hoax,
-the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax,
-the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax,
-the Jussie Smollett hoax,
-the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax,
-the Duke Lacrosse team hoax,
-the fake Ukraine transcript hoax,
-the Trayvon Martin hoax,
-the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax,
-the "penises cause climate change" hoax,
-the "uninsured crisis" hoax,
-the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax,
-the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes,
-the "Mission Accomplished" hoax,
-the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax,
-the "children in cages" hoax,
-the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes,
-the SPLC "hate group" hoax,
-the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax,
-the "you can keep your doctor" hoax,
-the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax,
-the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax,
-the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax,
-the polar bear dying from climate change hoax,
-the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax,
-the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax,
-the "Muslim ban" hoax,
-the global warming "consensus" hoax,
-the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax,
-the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax,
-the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax,
-the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax,
-the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax,
-the "Hillary exonerated" hoax,
-the "white privilege" hoax,
-the voter suppression hoax,
-and the "hands up don't shoot" hoax.
Attachment 13260
If by "educated," you mean viciously smearing Trump and anyone who supports him with childish insults ('Drumpf,' 'idiot,' 'stupid,' 'crazies,' 'loathsome,' etc.), pledging their loyalty to Hillary ('I'm with her,' 'screw you Trump,' 'Viva le resistance,' Hillary should win 'a million to zero,' etc.) pledging to "stop him" with their "insurance policy," etc. So yeah, if by "educated adults," you mean ignorant children, then sure.
Say the people still arguing that Trump is a secret Russian agent.
Calling the FBI "imperfect" after this is like calling Bill Cosby "a little forward."
Translation: There's nothing to see here. I know because I keep telling me.
Attachment 13261
All the facts show that pro-Democrat liars and criminals are exactly what the FBI and DOJ are at this point. Sorry if the evidence doesn't fit your misinformed worldview.
Last edited by artichoke; 12-10-2019 at 05:18 PM.
What in the hell did you think Barr was going to say, he's Trump's boy, the bigger question is why Barr felt the need to say anything, why did he suddenly think he had to comment at all on the IG's report, does the sitting AG offer his personal opinion on every report an IG does?
I will tell you why, Trump told him to, to do as he did with the Mueller Report and reframe the narrative, it blew up too many Trump fabrications to allow Trump to leave it to Hannity and the like to offer the lemmings the "alternative facts"
Phantasmal (12-10-2019)
TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..
De Oppresso Liber
artichoke (12-10-2019)
Because it concludes the opposite of what ALL the evidence shows...even its own evidence. Obviously, that's why.
But...there is a less conspiracy theory-oriented explanation (what sane adults always gravitate toward): THE FACTS told him to.
Smears that describe what only Democrats are doing, as usual.
Cypress (12-10-2019)
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