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    OH MY GOD!!!!!


    when the likes of grindy face science that means the right wing gig is up

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    “Bewildered” Climate Scientists: Aussie Politicians are Still Not Listening
    Good because it's bullshit hyped up by opportunistic climate hysterics. It's the same reason as in California years of forest mismanagement and bullshit from eco-loonys. Naturally the Guardian is in the forefront of the bullshit spouting, the sooner that news organ closes the better.



    The reason, of course, is just like in the USA the Aussie bushfires are a forest mismanagement issue, not a climate change issue.

    Government hostility towards back burning and harsh treatment of farmers who try to manage fire risk has led to a catastrophic buildup of fuel load in the Aussie bush, and now that accumulated fuel load is burning. Big surprise.

    In my opinion Climate scientists who try to take advantage of a problem which is obviously not climate related are simply exposing their activism and lack of objectivity.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/12/...not-listening/
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    you are a retard. climate change is real, retard. stop being retarded
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    Originally Posted by Do Si Dos
    you are a retard. climate change is real, retard. stop being retarded
    Let's see you say that when you're shivering your tits off this winter. Let's hope the Russians will be able to get through to supply you with gas!
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    REAL BULLSHIT. The UNALTERED, EMPIRICAL DATA DOES NOT SHOW MASSIVE WARMING...NOT EVEN CLOSE to THAT OF 12,000-20,000 YEARS AGO.


    LET US KNOW WHEN ANOTHER SET OF GREAT LAKES IS BEING CREATED FROM ICE MELTING, please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    REAL BULLSHIT. The UNALTERED, EMPIRICAL DATA DOES NOT SHOW MASSIVE WARMING...NOT EVEN CLOSE to THAT OF 12,000-20,000 YEARS AGO.


    LET US KNOW WHEN ANOTHER SET OF GREAT LAKES IS BEING CREATED FROM ICE MELTING, please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    REAL BULLSHIT. The UNALTERED, EMPIRICAL DATA DOES NOT SHOW MASSIVE WARMING...NOT EVEN CLOSE to THAT OF 12,000-20,000 YEARS AGO.


    LET US KNOW WHEN ANOTHER SET OF GREAT LAKES IS BEING CREATED FROM ICE MELTING, please
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    You must have a mental blockage, kid. You think this bloody weird weather is normal? Perhaps your fatman is doing it with his belly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    You must have a mental blockage, kid. You think this bloody weird weather is normal? Perhaps your fatman is doing it with his belly?
    What weird weather is that, sheep hurter?
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    Every sentient poster on this board knows emitting billions of tons of heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere year after year, decade after decade will have consequences and is not sustainable

    It has been demonstrated the oil and coal companies knew this half a century ago

    Any poster still clinging to Climate Denial is the type of person not only willing to lie to others, but to lie to themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    OH MY GOD!!!!!


    when the likes of grindy face science that means the right wing gig is up
    if you actually paid attention, retard, to what I actually say on here, rather than always making shit up or thinking I am different people, you would have noticed I have never once denied global climate change ever. Not here, not on fullpolitics, not on politics.com. literally never. Nor have I taken the stance of "it's happening but we don't know how much humans are to blame" - humans are entirely to blame. Nor have I ever taken the stance it's not important - it's very important, and we need to seriously address the issue.

    I have always believed this, for almost 2 decades now, and have never once deviated from these beliefs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Every sentient poster on this board knows emitting billions of tons of heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere year after year, decade after decade will have consequences and is not sustainable

    It has been demonstrated the oil and coal companies knew this half a century ago

    Any poster still clinging to Climate Denial is the type of person not only willing to lie to others, but to lie to themselves
    Stupid cunt, ever heard of Svante Arrhenius? This bullshit about oil companies is just risible!! Even if they knew only fifty years ago, what the fuck could you do about it? Renewables aren't really up to the job now and they definitely weren't fifty years ago. You arseholes truly make me vomit with your bullshit!!


    Greenhouse effect

    In developing a theory to explain the ice ages, Arrhenius, in 1896, was the first to use basic principles of physical chemistry to calculate estimates of the extent to which increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) will increase Earth's surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.[3][22][23] These calculations led him to conclude that human-caused CO2 emissions, from fossil-fuel burning and other combustion processes, are large enough to cause global warming. This conclusion has been extensively tested, winning a place at the core of modern climate science.[24][25] Arrhenius, in this work, built upon the prior work of other famous scientists, including Joseph Fourier, John Tyndall and Claude Pouillet. Arrhenius wanted to determine whether greenhouse gases could contribute to the explanation of the temperature variation between glacial and inter-glacial periods.[26] Arrhenius used infrared observations of the moon – by Frank Washington Very and Samuel Pierpont Langley at the Allegheny Observatory in Pittsburgh — to calculate how much of infrared (heat) radiation is captured by CO2 and water (H2O) vapour in Earth's atmosphere. Using 'Stefan's law' (better known as the Stefan–Boltzmann law), he formulated what he referred to as a 'rule'. In its original form, Arrhenius's rule reads as follows:

    if the quantity of carbonic acid increases in geometric progression, the augmentation of the temperature will increase nearly in arithmetic progression.

    Here, Arrhenius refers to CO2 as carbonic acid (which refers only to the aqueous form H2CO3 in modern usage). The following formulation of Arrhenius's rule is still in use today:[27]



    where is the concentration of CO2 at the beginning (time-zero) of the period being studied (if the same concentration unit is used for both , then it doesn't matter which concentration unit is used); is the CO2 concentration at end of the period being studied; ln is the natural logarithm (= log base e (loge)); and is the augmentation of the temperature, in other words the change in the rate of heating Earth's surface (radiative forcing), which is measured in Watts per square meter.[27] Derivations from atmospheric radiative transfer models have found that for CO2 is 5.35 (± 10%) W/m2 for Earth's atmosphere.[28]

    Based on information from his colleague Arvid Högbom, Arrhenius was the first person to predict that emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels and other combustion processes were large enough to cause global warming. In his calculation Arrhenius included the feedback from changes in water vapor as well as latitudinal effects, but he omitted clouds, convection of heat upward in the atmosphere, and other essential factors. His work is currently seen less as an accurate quantification of global warming than as the first demonstration that increases in atmospheric CO2 will cause global warming, everything else being equal.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius
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