Althea (12-08-2019)
Althea (12-08-2019)
The hardest part is paying! Obviously, she doesn't pay for labor. (This job, app. $10k) All electric is new from the panel. All plumbing was moved. I don't do tile, so I had my buddy do it. If Countryboy lived near me, I'd have him do it if he left his MAGA hat in the truck.
Old (1960) pink floor tile was set in 2" of mortar. That was a bitch to get up. I found some scary electrical work (ironically, the guy who built the house was an electrician) during the job, so I was changing a lot of wiring.
On and off it took a couple of months. 5 week wait for the cabinetry. My one tile guy told me he couldn't get there for a month. We waited, and he still wasn't ready. I called my other tile guy...who I should have called first.
She's probably got about $12k-$14k in material and tile labor. This is a $25,000 bathroom if she paid for labor. We love it. I'm going to look for the 'before' pictures.
This discussion started because we hate the toilet! I think we're changing it soon.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
christiefan915 (12-10-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
You are correct. I read a piece about 3 weeks ago about 'fake' reality shows. Some of those shows made the list. I love (not) when I get home from working all day, and GF has those shows on. I'm always laughing about how they start the renovations...with sledge hammers. That's ridiculous. It's quicker/cleaner to cut sections of sheetrock out and walk it out to the truck.
Also amusing, is when 'The Property Brothers' always seem to incur extra costs in the kitchen. "We found pipes in the walls that we didn't think would be there"
How the hell can you not expect to find drain/vent pipes behind the sink base? Also...all of those clients have contracts on the eventual house that they buy before they start filming. Notwithstanding the tension created by 'shopping' for houses.
A lot of those shows put crap cabinets in the kitchens, but you can't tell by watching. I also hear that many of those houses have myriad code issues in the end.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
Old layout...renovation was just underway. You can see the old tub, which is where the vanity is. Toilet sits where the new shower is. When you entered the room, there were cafe doors in that opening you are looking through now. Crazy layout.Vanity to the left of the picture, and a closet on the right. Another vanity on the right side just forward of the toilet. I got rid of the baseboard heat, and put an efficient electric heater in the wall. This is great, and there's no clumsy baseboard anymore.
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Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
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Earl (12-08-2019)
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Earl (12-08-2019)
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Althea (12-08-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
Hello christiefan915,
Our cat loves water. Wants you to turn the sink on to a dribble so he can dunk his head under it and drink what dribbles off his face. Then shakes like a dog. So the routine is do so and then turn the kitchen timer on to 444. That's about the time he needs. Then go shut off the water and we got a wet cat.
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christiefan915 (12-09-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
Hello Phantasmal,
""We have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms, where you turn the faucet on in areas where there's tremendous amounts of water, where it all flows out to sea because you could never handle it all, and you don't get any water," he said. "They take a shower and water comes dripping out, very quietly dripping out. People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once; they end up using more water. So EPA is looking very strongly at that, at my suggestion."
What the hell does that even mean?
It DOES sound like a drunk talking.
OK, I think I got the issue from context. Our idiot President doesn't want to have to conserve water. Well, if we had not overpopulated our world we wouldn't have to. But we did, and conservation has bought us some time. But it hasn't solved the issue.
And what's HE concerned about?
All the wrong things, of course.
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christiefan915 (12-09-2019), Phantasmal (12-09-2019), ThatOwlWoman (12-08-2019)
I wouldn't be surprised at all about the code violations and the crappiness of the materials they use. They seem to go for the "glam" and less for the quality. I know one thing's for sure -- I would *never* buy a completely renovated house after watching those shows. Rats, roaches, mold, termites, and other infestations -- how do you know those things were safely addressed, or the evidence just covered up? We always laugh at the sledge hammer shit too. WTF, why would you totally destroy cabinets that could be taken down, refinished, and sold?
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You did an amazing remodeling job. Love it!
Our next project, which fills me with dread, is replacing the original Formica or whatever they're made out of kitchen counters with quartz or marble. We're not doing it ourselves obviously. How long would you estimate a job like that to take? It's a pretty large kitchen, lots and lots of counter space.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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