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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    You're in San Fransisco area, right? Well shoot. Everybody knows why there's plenty of high paying jobs available out there. Nobody can live there. It costs too much. Even with that high pay you still can't make it there. That's why those jobs are unfilled.

    Who wants to pay a million dollars for an 800 sf house in a questionable area only a short 2 hour drive to work?

    On a tiny lot.
    Like I said people from all over the world come here for the opportunity. It's the same reason aspiring actors and actresses go to L.A. For a chance to pursue their dreams. They may make it or may not. They may stay in S.F. or L.A. or may not. But people are drawn to the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    So much for the shills and their praise of Trumps great economy.
    I hope whichever Democrat gets the nomination tells the truth about the economy every chance they get. The economy is not doing well when so many Americans need to work two jobs.

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    Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000




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    Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones .

    The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

    The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing.

    Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.




    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-n...mber-2019.html


    CONSTANT WAGE GROWTH UNDER TRUMPONOMICS...FAR OUTSTRIPPING INFLATION:







    INFLATION 2018-2019 = 1.76%
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I hope whichever Democrat gets the nomination tells the truth about the economy every chance they get. The economy is not doing well when so many Americans need to work two jobs.
    Which candidate is telling the truth now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Which candidate is telling the truth now?
    None of them. Sanders has mentioned here and there that nobody working 40 hours a week should be living in poverty, but even he hasn't talked enough about how Trump is lying when he says the economy is doing well for the working-class. We need people who are going to say if you need to work two jobs, if you have a job and you're still struggling, then Trump's economy is not doing well.

    You know the old saying about how all evil needs to succeed is for people to let it happen? The Democrats are being the people letting the evil happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    The reason those jobs remain unfilled is because they are undesirable jobs. Good jobs don't go unfilled. The best jobs never even get listed. And the good ones often get listed as a matter of formality even though the employer already has someone in mind for the position, they simply need to go through the motions to satisfy investors. The best jobs are filled by word of mouth. Or somebody worked in a related position and had their eye on the job for years, making sure they are the best qualified for it. Then when the time comes they move right into it.

    If a job has to get listed out to the general public it is not a very desirable job. Nurse? They work their butts off. I know one who had to quit because the work was so demanding and stressful it was giving her high blood pressure and back pain. And she worked for a supervisor who made her life hell. Engineer? Guess which ones are open. Drilling rig. That's a job where ya don't get to go home at night. You'll be gone for weeks when you go to work. And it might be in some remote location where you can't leave the rig. 24-7 you'll be there with all the same people. Oh, and you'll be in a dangerous job. Truck driver? That's one of the most dangerous jobs in America. 30,000 people die every year on our highways. Very stressful job. Drivers are *so* courteous, you know. The highway is a 'friendly' place, yeah, right. And how long a career could that be with AI looming to eliminate drivers?

    In total, a few hundred thousand well-paying jobs have been identified, and it's obvious why these lousy jobs remain unfilled. And that pales in comparison to the 44 million Americans who need well-paying jobs.
    You are saying those well paying jobs are worse than working in a nursing home, convenience store, or retail clerk?

    You also say 44 million Americans need well-paying jobs but apparently don't want to do the kind of "undesirable" work that earns them that money. I don't think engineers (most are not on drilling rigs), web developer, or software developers are undesirable, especially compared to the $10 an hour jobs. And yes, nursing is a hard job, but millions to it and make good money (RNs). It sounds like you want people to have good paying jobs that don't have to work too hard or have any training or skills.

    I don't think most of those highly paid unskilled jobs are undesirable as much as there are not enough people qualified to fill them. That is why maniy are filled with people from places like India.

    "At the end of January, the US economy had 7.6 million unfilled jobs, but only 6.5 million people were looking for work, according to data released Friday by the US Department of Labor. This was the 11th straight month that the number of job openings was higher than the number of job seekers. And each month, the gap has grown.

    Employers have been complaining about a shortage of skilled workers in recent years, particularly workers with advanced degrees in STEM fields. Nearly ever industry now has a labor shortage, but hereís the twist: Employers are having a harder time filling blue-collar positions than professional positions that require a college education."

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    None of them. Sanders has mentioned here and there that nobody working 40 hours a week should be living in poverty, but even he hasn't talked enough about how Trump is lying when he says the economy is doing well for the working-class. We need people who are going to say if you need to work two jobs, if you have a job and you're still struggling, then Trump's economy is not doing well.

    You know the old saying about how all evil needs to succeed is for people to let it happen? The Democrats are being the people letting the evil happen.
    Bernie Sanders: Trump’s economy is great for billionaires, not for working families
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/782404002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Bernie Sanders: Trump’s economy is great for billionaires, not for working families
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/782404002/
    Yeah, he's mentioned it before, which is good and all, but he needs to be saying this in the debates.
    I don't know, maybe he'll start if he makes it to the general election.

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    WAGES..UP NEARLY 20% SINCE 2017.


    INFLATION : 1.76%

    WAGE INCREASES and JOBS REPORT BOTH BEAT NOVEMBER PREDICTIONS.




    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE .


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    There you go blaming the poor again.
    This is the land of opportunity Poli. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
    If folks do not take advantage of opportunity thats on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    This is the land of opportunity Poli. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
    If folks do not take advantage of opportunity thats on them.
    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    If I am making more the SS payments, who cares?
    Perhaps you dont understand SS. You can work while receiving SS benefits but if you make anove a certain level, the benefits are stopped.
    Seniors who are working need jobs that accomodate this.
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're free to have an abstract discussion about all the good socialism would bring but what I was responding to was Flash posting the various job training's and opportunities available to people to help them grow their skills and employment options.
    There is no 'would bring' about all the good socialism has already produced. It has already happened. It is happening now and it will continue to happen. People who have the mistaken idea that we are in some kind of battle between capitalism and socialism are out of touch. We already have socialism and it has lifted the poor from destitution. We use capitalism to pay for that socialism and the two work together to produce the highest standard of living ever known. Delusional people who are afraid of socialism and afraid it is going to wipe out capitalism are under completely false impressions, hopelessly mixed up by capitalist propaganda.

    The greediest capitalists among us foment and produce stupid propaganda for the sole reason of greed. The greediest richest few want to suppress our socialism simply to increase their own profits and reduce their taxes and their financial burden to help pay for the government programs. They strongly support the Republican party and circulate the false rumor that taxing is too high and that we should always be trying to cut taxes. That's wrong. They have been far too successful in spreading their lies. That has produced the largest tax cut for the rich in history and with it the largest deficit in history. Fool's gold. We run our government on credit. The deeper in debt the government sinks, the greater their profits. Foolish and irresponsible.

    Oh yeah, the economy is 'doing great,' they claim. And the numbers look really good. More people working than ever, (at jobs that don't support them,) and the stock market is soaring. Not a word about the debt or the deficit because that is a sore subject. Republicans were *SO* worried about the debt when Obama was President that when they were finally able to wrest control of the government away from the irresponsible Democrats they took matters in their own hands and made the debt problem FAR greater.

    It was totally irresponsible to have a tax cut for the richest when we had so much debt and the economy was strong. The responsible thing to do would be to use the power of that strong economy to pay down the debt they complained so bitterly about.

    We now borrow over a trillion dollars a year to run our government and the rich enjoy the lowest taxes in decades.

    IRRESPONSIBLE REPUBLICANS ARE RACKING UP TOWERING GOVERNMENT DEBT.
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Like I said people from all over the world come here for the opportunity. It's the same reason aspiring actors and actresses go to L.A. For a chance to pursue their dreams. They may make it or may not. They may stay in S.F. or L.A. or may not. But people are drawn to the opportunity.
    And like I said the cost of living is too high and the traffic is a nightmare. You wonder why people seem crazy out there, there's your answer. Living there drives people crazy. That's why all the 'opportunity' of those 'great jobs' is being left unfilled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    And like I said the cost of living is too high and the traffic is a nightmare. You wonder why people seem crazy out there, there's your answer. Living there drives people crazy. That's why all the 'opportunity' of those 'great jobs' is being left unfilled.
    Iíve lived in Oakland/SF or LA for 35 years. Itís amazing out here and the opportunities are off the chart. But yes, itís not for everyone nor do I believe we should export the California model across the country.

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