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    Default One of the common GOP talking points during these hearings

    is that the Democrats should end the Impeachment movement and just let Americans decide in 2020

    The problem there is that we all know foreign entities were heavily involved in the last election to get Trump elected. We know now that Trump has asked others to get involved in 2020, and got caught attemptimg to leverage similar foreign participation in the next election.

    Why wouldn't any autocrat out there do what they can to give Donny a hand, especially since in 2016 not only was there was no consequences for their actions but Trump himself excuse them? And an entire political party and major news network ignored it

    These hearings are the only real measure offered anywhere so far that someone will be held accountable if the same occurs in 2020. They are necessary so the Americans' decision in the next election will not be tainted by foreign involvement.

    The just let Americans decide line ignores these realities

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    is that the Democrats should end the Impeachment movement and just let Americans decide in 2020

    The problem there is that we all know foreign entities were heavily involved in the last election to get Trump elected. We know now that Trump has asked others to get involved in 2020, and got caught attemptimg to leverage similar foreign participation in the next election.

    Why wouldn't any autocrat out there do what they can to give Donny a hand, especially since in 2016 not only was there was no consequences for their actions but Trump himself excuse them? And an entire political party and major news network ignored it

    These hearings are the only real measure offered anywhere so far that someone will be held accountable if the same occurs in 2020. They are necessary so the Americans' decision in the next election will not be tainted by foreign involvement.

    The just let Americans decide line ignores these realities
    It is pretty obvious why this is urgent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    is that the Democrats should end the Impeachment movement and just let Americans decide in 2020
    That is how America works. But morons like Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi are trying to turn that on its head and claim that impeachment can mean whatever they want it to mean knowing that they have a complicit and PHONY media on their side that will promote their lie filled narratives.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The problem there is that we all know foreign entities were heavily involved in the last election to get Trump elected.
    What we know is that not one vote was changed as a result of efforts by foreign nations to interfere and that it occurred on OBAMA's watch.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    We know now that Trump has asked others to get involved in 2020, and got caught attemptimg to leverage similar foreign participation in the next election.
    That is an outright lie and laughably stupid. Trump made a joke and you morons run with it as if it was fact. How dimwitted are you idiots on the left? That was rhetorical.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Why wouldn't any autocrat out there do what they can to give Donny a hand, especially since in 2016 not only was there was no consequences for their actions but Trump himself excuse them? And an entire political party and major news network ignored it
    The autocrats worked overtime to get Hillary elected. They even assisted her campaign by producing a salacious lie filled dossier which was used by the Obama JD to spy on Trump's campaign.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    These hearings are the only real measure offered anywhere so far that someone will be held accountable if the same occurs in 2020. They are necessary so the Americans' decision in the next election will not be tainted by foreign involvement.
    These hearings are a pathetic clown show in a desperate effort to upend the 2016 election and make 2020 less of a runaway for Trump's re-election.

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    The just let Americans decide line ignores these realities
    What realities; that Democrats have come to the realization they cannot win an election without cheating, lying and impeaching?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It is pretty obvious why this is urgent.
    The only thing that should be urgent is you seeking a mental health expert.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That is how America works. But morons like Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi are trying to turn that on its head and claim that impeachment can mean whatever they want it to mean knowing that they have a complicit and PHONY media on their side that will promote their lie filled narratives.



    What we know is that not one vote was changed as a result of efforts by foreign nations to interfere and that it occurred on OBAMA's watch.



    That is an outright lie and laughably stupid. Trump made a joke and you morons run with it as if it was fact. How dimwitted are you idiots on the left? That was rhetorical.



    The autocrats worked overtime to get Hillary elected. They even assisted her campaign by producing a salacious lie filled dossier which was used by the Obama JD to spy on Trump's campaign.



    These hearings are a pathetic clown show in a desperate effort to upend the 2016 election and make 2020 less of a runaway for Trump's re-election.



    What realities; that Democrats have come to the realization they cannot win an election without cheating, lying and impeaching?
    The whole post is inane, lot of talk radio rhetoric, the usual "truthie" rant, but the best is that Trump "was just joking," he publically asks the Ukraine and China to start investigating the Bidens but he was "just joking," too funny, almost as rich as, "he didn't break any laws did he," "what law did he break," always a laugh

    And the one point you and the Trump Red Hat Club never respond to is what stops Trump now from ringing up say little rocket man and asking him for help in his reelection campaign? Why would little rocket man or any other autocrat refuse, he's seen that Trump, Trump's AG, the GOP, GOP's Senate leader, and a major American news organization are going to ignore the activity?

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    Impeachment was forced upon the House of Representatives.
    This is blatant extortion of a Foreign Leader for 'personal gain' by the President.
    Plus, ... the ignoring of lawful subpoenas.

    What if Bernie Sanders becomes the next President and he is subpoened by Congress, ... and he tells them to go fuck themselves?




    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    is that the Democrats should end the Impeachment movement and just let Americans decide in 2020

    The problem there is that we all know foreign entities were heavily involved in the last election to get Trump elected. We know now that Trump has asked others to get involved in 2020, and got caught attemptimg to leverage similar foreign participation in the next election.

    Why wouldn't any autocrat out there do what they can to give Donny a hand, especially since in 2016 not only was there was no consequences for their actions but Trump himself excuse them? And an entire political party and major news network ignored it

    These hearings are the only real measure offered anywhere so far that someone will be held accountable if the same occurs in 2020. They are necessary so the Americans' decision in the next election will not be tainted by foreign involvement.

    The just let Americans decide line ignores these realities

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The whole post is inane, lot of talk radio rhetoric, the usual "truthie" rant, but the best is that Trump "was just joking," he publically asks the Ukraine and China to start investigating the Bidens but he was "just joking," too funny, almost as rich as, "he didn't break any laws did he," "what law did he break," always a laugh
    Poor Arsecheese; still stuck on moron and can't get anything right. Is that all you have Arsecheese; the predictable whiny and dumb talk radio meme?

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And the one point you and the Trump Red Hat Club never respond to is what stops Trump now from ringing up say little rocket man and asking him for help in his reelection campaign? Why would little rocket man or any other autocrat refuse, he's seen that Trump, Trump's AG, the GOP, GOP's Senate leader, and a major American news organization are going to ignore the activity?
    More lunatic hyperbole Arsecheese. But hey, you seem to love looking like a dumbass and being wrong all of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Impeachment was forced upon the House of Representatives.
    This is blatant extortion of a Foreign Leader for 'personal gain' by the President.
    Plus, ... the ignoring of lawful subpoenas.

    What if Bernie Sanders becomes the next President and he is subpoened by Congress, ... and he tells them to go fuck themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Another poor argument Republicans are using is the consensus argument, that we should not impeach unless there is overwhelming bipartisan bicameral support in all Congress.
    The flaw here is that Republicans are a cult. NOTHING can sway them. You can't gain consensus when 1/2 of the people are immoveable objects,
    lacking brains, free will or sense of duty. So the argument of consensus fails as a bar to impeachment. Posit Trump murdering 12 senators
    on live TV. If Republicans would lockstep oppose impeachment, could it be said impeachment is off the table? No of course not. We cannot stop impeachment on grounds
    we cannot get a cult to agree with us.

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