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    U.S. intelligence officials had briefed senators that Russia had engaged in a "yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/u...erference.html

    "Sen. Kennedy, why are you parroting Russian propaganda that U.S. intelligence officials tell us are designed to divide our country?" Clinton asked in a tweet. "Did you miss the briefing that day?"

    Hillary Clinton

    Republican treason. We won't let you get away with being a de facto agent of Vladimir Putin.

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    Mr. Putin began publicly pushing false theories of Ukrainian interference in the early months of 2017 to deflect responsibility from Russia, said Senator Angus King, independent of Maine and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who declined to answer questions about the briefing.

    During a news conference in February 2017, Mr. Putin accused the Ukrainian government of supporting Hillary Clinton during the previous American election and funding her candidacy with friendly oligarchs.
    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Timeline of Alleged Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Timeline of Alleged Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
    Your own article states that whatever nominal sympathy Ukraine had for Hillary Clinton it was not even remotely close to the efforts by the Kremlin to sway the election to trump.
    Your Own article states there is little evidence of a top-down effort by the Urkrainian government to help Clinton in the way that the Kremlin was helping Trump.

    Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

    There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    WHY ARE REPUBLICANS PARROTING RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA-HILLARY ASKS
    No one cares what a lying, loser hack like Hillary has to say. Why did she BUY fake dossier information from Russia on Trump and then try to pass it off as legit?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your own article states that whatever nominal sympathy Ukraine had for Hillary Clinton it was not even remotely close to the efforts by the Kremlin to sway the election to trump.
    Your Own article states there is little evidence of a top-down effort by the Urkrainian government to help Clinton in the way that the Kremlin was helping Trump.
    Mueller says you are a FULL OF SHIT snowflake.

    Mueller Report; Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Who is Hillary? Oh, she’s the loser who lost the election and was sent home to bake....

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Timeline of Alleged Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
    Best post of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your own article states that whatever nominal sympathy Ukraine had for Hillary Clinton it was not even remotely close to the efforts by the Kremlin to sway the election to trump.
    Your Own article states there is little evidence of a top-down effort by the Urkrainian government to help Clinton in the way that the Kremlin was helping Trump.
    I for one don't believe a word from Clapper -putting that aside the meme that Russian malware was used and not Ukraine according to Crowdstrike is just not credible considering how badly Crowdstrike has misidentifies it before.

    CrowdStrike Revises Russian Hack Into Ukrainian Artillery
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/0...ian-artillery/
    ~~

    also the same can be said of the Internet Research Agency - it's never been shown to have ties to the Kremlin -only "Oligarchs close to Putin".

    Mueller’s Own Report Undercuts Its Core Russia-Meddling Claims

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html
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    so I don't just accept any of this because our intel agencies say so -these are the same asshats who were pushing "Russian collusion" which I told you from day one was bogus.

    Connect the dots. no real proof of the malware = no proof Russian hacking

    Then look at the efforts to back Hillary from various parts of Ukraine, and I am not just going to swallow this garbage whole and neither should anyone else using critical thought
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I for one don't believe a word from Clapper -putting that aside the meme that Russian malware was used and not Ukraine according to Crowdstrike is just not credible considering how badly Crowdstrike has misidentifies it before.

    CrowdStrike Revises Russian Hack Into Ukrainian Artillery
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/0...ian-artillery/
    ~~

    also the same can be said of the Internet Research Agency - it's never been shown to have ties to the Kremlin -only "Oligarchs close to Putin".

    Mueller’s Own Report Undercuts Its Core Russia-Meddling Claims

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....ng_claims.html
    ~~

    so I don't just accept any of this because our intel agencies say so -these are the same asshats who were pushing "Russian collusion" which I told you from day one was bogus.

    Connect the dots. no real proof of the malware = no proof Russian hacking

    Then look at the efforts to back Hillary from various parts of Ukraine, and I am not just going to swallow this garbage whole and neither should anyone else using critical thought
    No word salad or spin will change this facts>

    The article you provided - your OWN article - says that there is no comparison between what Ukraine did and what the Kremlin did.

    Your OWN article - the one you provided - says that there was no top-down effort by the Ukrainian government to meddle in our elections, in the way that the Kremlin did on behalf of Trump.


    Aren't Buddhists supposed to strive for honesty and integrity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No word salad or spin will change this facts>

    The article you provided - your OWN article - says that there is no comparison between what Ukraine did and what the Kremlin did.

    Your OWN article - the one you provided - says that there was no top-down effort by the Ukrainian government to meddle in our elections, in the way that the Kremlin did on behalf of Trump.


    Aren't Buddhists supposed to strive for honesty and integrity?
    you are repeating yourself.
    I just debunked this.

    Why are you bringing Buddhism into this?
    But the core of Buddhism is seeing things as they are not as we want them to be.or think they should be.

    Kalama Sutta
    https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/.../wheel008.html
    Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration.

    'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,' abandon them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Timeline of Alleged Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times



    The Epoch Times is a multi-language newspaper[2] founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement.[3] Though the newspaper has been known for general interest topics with a focus on news about China and its human rights issues, it is becoming known for its support of U.S. President Donald Trump and favorable coverage of right-wing politicians in Europe; a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign itself.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD).[7] The group's news sites and YouTube channels are known for spreading conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.[7] For its articles, the publication draws from a network within China, as well as Chinese expatriates living in the West.[11][12][13][14]
    The Epoch Times has print editions in English, Chinese, and six other languages.[15] Fifteen additional languages are published online only. The English edition of The Epoch Times is sold in broadsheet format Monday to Friday in New York City and Washington, D.C., and weekly across the United States and Canada.[15] A typical issue includes news sections, including Nation, World, Business, Opinion, and Commentary, and lifestyle sections, including Travel, Life & Tradition, Mind & Body, Food, and Puzzles.[16]
    The Epoch Times has been publishing in Chinese since May 2000.[17] It is either sold or distributed free-of-charge in 35 countries, including various international regional editions. The Epoch Times websites are blocked in mainland China.[17]

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    and Buddhism is an organized religion


    subject to the scaffolding it creates that makes it easy for evil people to rise to power
    It's a bit like Christianity, I suppose. There are the things the originator said and the way boss-people have organised those who 'believe'. They don't have a lot in common in either case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It's a bit like Christianity, I suppose. There are the things the originator said and the way boss-people have organised those who 'believe'. They don't have a lot in common in either case.
    the dharma- by in large- is intact ( agreement) with the suttas

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