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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    To take the life of another could be a criminal act. If I shot a home intruder and killed him would you brand me a criminal?

    I am not going to discuss this any longer with you since we will never see eye to eye on this. We can agree to disagree on this topic. My main interest in entering into this was to counteract the misinformation regarding the motivation of Southerners and their involvement in the War Between The States
    According to my State's laws, defending yourself against an intruder is within the law. You have no duty to retreat and you can use deadly force in your home, vehicle, and place of business without being held criminally liable. What that means is you wouldn't be a criminal because the LAW says you aren't one.

    With Rosa Parks, the LAW, whether you agree with or not, said she had to sit in the back of the bus.

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    So if you do not agree with a law and want to make a stand about it...its a-ok to break said law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    So if you do not agree with a law and want to make a stand about it...its a-ok to break said law?
    That's what several on this thread have indicated they believe. Their argument centers around something being unjust and the belief that if they, THEY, claim it is an unjust law, it automatically makes it an unjust law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    According to my State's laws, defending yourself against an intruder is within the law. You have no duty to retreat and you can use deadly force in your home, vehicle, and place of business without being held criminally liable. What that means is you wouldn't be a criminal because the LAW says you aren't one.

    With Rosa Parks, the LAW, whether you agree with or not, said she had to sit in the back of the bus.

    Was there a law against black folks sitting in the front of the bus or was that just "how things were done"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    So if you do not agree with a law and want to make a stand about it...its a-ok to break said law?
    Depends on the law. Prior to 1865 the law said slaves had to be returned to their rightful owners. Were those people who refused to return slaves criminals?

    If one does disobey the law for whatever reason they should be prepared to suffer the consequences. I have not said that Rosa Parks should not have been arrested. I said she did the right thing in not meekly taking her seat in the back of the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Rosa Parks broke the law. The southern states that seceded didn't.
    Basically, scededing from the UNITED STATES, is against the Constitution- AND AGAINST THE LAW!

    TRY AND CATCH UP THERE COUNTRY BUMKIN!

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    Rosa Parks statue erected....



    Donald Trump statue- Unerected....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    Was there a law against black folks sitting in the front of the bus or was that just "how things were done"?
    OK, there was a law in Montgomery. It should be noted that Parks was arrested and fined for her transgression. The true result of her actions was the uproar and subsequent lawsuit to get the law repealed, an action the Supreme Court had a hand it. It also lead to the rise of Martin Luther King and his efforts to end segregation. So, she didn't "get away" with breaking the law. She paid the legal penalty for doing so but served as a catalyst for the entire civil rights movement, and for that deserves recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Basically, scededing from the UNITED STATES, is against the Constitution- AND AGAINST THE LAW!

    TRY AND CATCH UP THERE COUNTRY BUMKIN!
    Try to learn how to spell, its Bumpkin.

    Where in the Constitution does it say once a state, always a state? There was no law against seceding from the Union. There was absolutely nothing in the Constitution demanding that once you became a state you could not leave the Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    Try to learn how to spell, its Bumpkin.

    Where in the Constitution does it say once a state, always a state? There was no law against seceding from the Union. There was absolutely nothing in the Constitution demanding that once you became a state you could not leave the Union.
    The rest of the U.S. would gladly change the Constitution if places like California, New York and Idaho wanted to secede.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    Try to learn how to spell, its Bumpkin.

    Where in the Constitution does it say once a state, always a state? There was no law against seceding from the Union. There was absolutely nothing in the Constitution demanding that once you became a state you could not leave the Union.
    Try not to be an asshole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    Try to learn how to spell, its Bumpkin.

    Where in the Constitution does it say once a state, always a state? There was no law against seceding from the Union. There was absolutely nothing in the Constitution demanding that once you became a state you could not leave the Union.
    The Supreme Court weighed in on the secession issue in Texas v. White in 1869, declaring it unconstitutional. BUMPKIN ASS IDIOT!

    Try to do your homework and study American History before you go running your mouth OK?

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    The law on the subject is that a state may not unilaterally secede from the "more perfect union" that was created after the articles of confederation
    were replaced with the US Constitution. The case law arises after the civil war with reference to reconstruction litigation. The seminal case is Texas v White
    and there are close to a dozen appellate court decisions in accord that each act of unilateral secession of each state was null and void.

    Obviously there are two ways to legally secede (1) gaining assent of the USA or (2) waging a war against her (illegally) and ratifying your own act as legal in your new country thereafter, and making the USA, if it still exists recognize you by our laws. It could be a term of USA surrender I suppose. But basically, unilateral secession is illegal according to US law.

    Not only was secession illegal, according to Scotus, it didn't even really happen. LOL. It was a void act. All dead southerners never drew a breath of confederate air!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Basically, scededing from the UNITED STATES, is against the Constitution- AND AGAINST THE LAW!

    TRY AND CATCH UP THERE COUNTRY BUMKIN!
    Not at all nor can you show me the words where it says so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    The Supreme Court weighed in on the secession issue in Texas v. White in 1869, declaring it unconstitutional. BUMPKIN ASS IDIOT!
    So did Justice Scalia.

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