Impeachment is serious business so why the rush?

[Darth Omar]

Schiff is only giving House members 24 hours to digest his report and prayerfully[lol] consider them before signing off on his recommendation for impeachment.

I thought Impeachment was serious business so what’s the hurry?

We all know the answer and Democrats know we know the answer: Democrats need Trump impeached—and hopefully removed, but at least impeached ASAP. Removal is the Money Shot because we know and they know they are fielding weak candidates and they don’t trust their own polls.

They can’t risk four more years of the Bad Orange Man and will stop at *nothing* to prevent that from happening. Basically, Democrats don’t trust voters and our democratic institutions so they can’t wait for an election that’s happening within months from now.

That’s your impeachment in a nutshell. So here we are with this precedent where future presidents are at risk of ‘impeachment inquiries’ that are little more than fishing expeditions and narrative building schemes designed to remove duly elected Presidents.

We should all prayerfully hope democrats not only fail—but fail miserably.

[anatta]

They can’t risk four more years of the Bad Orange Man and will stop at *nothing* to prevent that from happening. Basically, Democrats don’t trust voters and our democratic institutions so they can’t wait for an election that’s happening within months from now.

That’s your impeachment in a nutshell. So here we are with this precedent where future presidents are at risk of ‘impeachment inquiries’ that are little more than fishing expeditions and narrative building schemes designed to remove duly elected Presidents.

some talking head was saying"impeachment is whatever the House says it is -it's political" which is wrong.

Impeachment is legal removal, based on criminal behavior (per the Constitution_not vague "abuse of power")
that is unprovable.

Dems are out to smear with trumped up charges. The good thing is nobody is paying attention except political junkies

[Darth Omar]

some talking head was saying"impeachment is whatever the House says it is -it's political" which is wrong.

Impeachment is legal removal, based on criminal behavior (per the Constitution_not vague "abuse of power")
that is unprovable.

Dems are out to smear with trumped up charges. The good thing is nobody is paying attention except political junkies

And the junkies are typically beyond persuading lol.

I say this all the time, but I have no idea what Democrats hope to gain out of sending articles to the Senate. Are they that desperate that they’re willing to put everything on the line for a long shot? Given their ‘case’ it’s a slam dunk for censure.

None of the risks of a senate trial; censure doesn’t put the House at risk: doesn’t pull Warren and company off the campaign trail; it has a good chance of actually being bipartisan; since they’re so bloody determined to damage Trump going into 2020 it would give the Democrats contender some campaign ammo.

But Democrats are determined to play Don Quixote. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[Bigdog]

some talking head was saying"impeachment is whatever the House says it is -it's political" which is wrong.

Apparently, that was some off the cuff remark made by Gerald Ford back in the 70's. The dems believe it is a scotus ruling.

[Bigdog]

Impeachment is serious business so why the rush?

IMHO, it's a Hurry up offense before the inquiry fades from the news cycle.

Schiff, incorrectly, believes he is on a roll.

[Phantasmal]

Schiff is only giving House members 24 hours to digest his report and prayerfully[lol] consider them before signing off on his recommendation for impeachment.

I thought Impeachment was serious business so what’s the hurry?

We all know the answer and Democrats know we know the answer: Democrats need Trump impeached—and hopefully removed, but at least impeached ASAP. Removal is the Money Shot because we know and they know they are fielding weak candidates and they don’t trust their own polls.

They can’t risk four more years of the Bad Orange Man and will stop at *nothing* to prevent that from happening. Basically, Democrats don’t trust voters and our democratic institutions so they can’t wait for an election that’s happening within months from now.

That’s your impeachment in a nutshell. So here we are with this precedent where future presidents are at risk of ‘impeachment inquiries’ that are little more than fishing expeditions and narrative building schemes designed to remove duly elected Presidents.

We should all prayerfully hope democrats not only fail—but fail miserably.

Bawahahaha, you Trumpeteers are hilarious, I remember two month ago when the argument was the Democrats were dragging their feet. You guys need to start keeping track of all your lame arguments.

[Darth Omar]

Apparently, that was some off the cuff remark made by Gerald Ford back in the 70's. The dems believe it is a scotus ruling.

Well, Democrats are certainly capable of being right and wrong all at once lol.

Yeah, Impeachment can be anything the House decides it wants it to be. No one is going to stop them. Does that mean the Senate *even needs to pick up what the House sends over*?

Umm...no. Does it mean House Democrats take no political risks in crafting ‘articles of impeachment on the fly’ and then sending them to the Senate?

Umm...no. Again—for the good of the country and the office of the presidency, Democrats need to fail, bigly.

[Darth Omar]

Bawahahaha, you Trumpeteers are hilarious, I remember two month ago when the argument was the Democrats were dragging their feet. You guys need to start keeping track of all your lame arguments.

We were saying that because Democrats were claiming to have a slam dunk case lol. If they had a slam dunk—vote on it already.

It’s months later and they still don’t have one. And they still haven’t voted. The only ‘impeachment vote’ they had lost a couple Democrats and got zero republicans. Even the squishy republicans didn’t bite on it.

What’s that tell you about their impeachment case? Don’t House Democrats recognize a Stop Sign when they see one?

[Phantasmal]

Well, Democrats are certainly capable of being right and wrong all at once lol.

Yeah, Impeachment can be anything the House decides it wants it to be. No one is going to stop them. Does that mean the Senate *even needs to pick up what the House sends over*?

Umm...no. Does it mean House Democrats take no political risks in crafting ‘articles of impeachment on the fly’ and then sending them to the Senate?

Umm...no. Again—for the good of the country and the office of the presidency, Democrats need to fail, bigly.

You all have been exposed as idiots without any good defense of the conman grifter. He’s not even coming to his own defense after bitching for months about it not being fair, he can’t present his own defense. It’s just hilarious to watch all this idiocy!

[Bigdog]

Well, Democrats are certainly capable of being right and wrong all at once lol.

Yeah, Impeachment can be anything the House decides it wants it to be. No one is going to stop them. Does that mean the Senate *even needs to pick up what the House sends over*?

Umm...no. Does it mean House Democrats take no political risks in crafting ‘articles of impeachment on the fly’ and then sending them to the Senate?

Umm...no. Again—for the good of the country and the office of the presidency, Democrats need to fail, bigly.

I disagree. It is defined in the constitution.

The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4


To impeach or not to impeach, ... either way it is a lose/lose scenario for Pelosi, IMHO.

I believe there will not be an impeachment vote over the phone call, but I kinda hope I'm wrong.

[Bigdog]

You all have been exposed as idiots without any good defense of the conman grifter. He’s not even coming to his own defense after bitching for months about it not being fair, he can’t present his own defense. It’s just hilarious to watch all this idiocy!

Schiff has nothing. There is nothing to defend against.

[anatta]

Apparently, that was some off the cuff remark made by Gerald Ford back in the 70's. The dems believe it is a scotus ruling.

it's right in the text referring to crimes only- not "maladministration" as Madison wrote in Federalists.
Else the House could impeach on a whim.
The process is political,but the Article is criminal

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Schiff is only giving House members 24 hours to digest his report and prayerfully[lol] consider them before signing off on his recommendation for impeachment.

I thought Impeachment was serious business so what’s the hurry?

We all know the answer and Democrats know we know the answer: Democrats need Trump impeached—and hopefully removed, but at least impeached ASAP. Removal is the Money Shot because we know and they know they are fielding weak candidates and they don’t trust their own polls.

They can’t risk four more years of the Bad Orange Man and will stop at *nothing* to prevent that from happening. Basically, Democrats don’t trust voters and our democratic institutions so they can’t wait for an election that’s happening within months from now.

That’s your impeachment in a nutshell. So here we are with this precedent where future presidents are at risk of ‘impeachment inquiries’ that are little more than fishing expeditions and narrative building schemes designed to remove duly elected Presidents.

We should all prayerfully hope democrats not only fail—but fail miserably.

What pure fertilizer.

Rush Limbaugh couldn't have bloviated any better.

If Republicans had this kind of evidence against President Obama they would totally have impeached him. It would have been their Constitutional duty to do so, just as it is now for Democrats, who btw did not choose the timing.

Democrats are doing their Constitutional duty.

Republicans are being completely partisan. Republicans only serve the Republican party.

[anatta]

And the junkies are typically beyond persuading lol.

I say this all the time, but I have no idea what Democrats hope to gain out of sending articles to the Senate. Are they that desperate that they’re willing to put everything on the line for a long shot? Given their ‘case’ it’s a slam dunk for censure.

None of the risks of a senate trial; censure doesn’t put the House at risk: doesn’t pull Warren and company off the campaign trail; it has a good chance of actually being bipartisan; since they’re so bloody determined to damage Trump going into 2020 it would give the Democrats contender some campaign ammo.

But Democrats are determined to play Don Quixote. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

it's a runaway train

[Darth Omar]

I disagree. It is defined in the constitution.

The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4


To impeach or not to impeach, ... either way it is a lose/lose scenario for Pelosi, IMHO.

I believe there will not be an impeachment vote over the phone call, but I kinda hope I'm wrong.

Well, Schiff ‘sees’ enough wiggle room in Article II to wring something out of it.

Note the change from QPQ to bribery.

But it’s up to the Senate to determine the validity of an impeachment. Our system of checks and balances is a wonderful thing that protects the country from rank demagogues like Schiff and Pelosi.