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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    You really have to ask that, she is a black racist and terminally stupid.
    Spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    This law just claimed a life. How is that safer?

    At this time it’s not clear who called police to alert them about Willis.

    So we don't have anything to inform us as to why Willis was deemed a threat. Just an anonymous call?

    Who said anything about anonymous? The news organization is the one that doesn't know who called. Just about every red flag law I've read requires immediate family or coworkers of a certain amount of time to be actionable.

    Leave it to you to make shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Speaking for myself here, I'm not a fan of back-shooters, unless the perp committed a murder and are running from the scene with a weapon in hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am not a fan of anyone getting shot. My point is that if the cops say to stop and put your hands up, it's fascinatingly moronic to NOT expect a bullet in the back while running away.

    Of course, in the loony PC world we live in today, Cops should be disarmed to ensure that there is no chance that ANY innocent black person who runs away and refuses to comply with police commands, gets hurt.

    Read my above post. There are very few circumstances that would require shooting someone in the back. Just running away isn't one of them, nor is refusing to obey a cop's command. They'll get caught sooner or later anyway, then add additional charges as warranted. Again, I despise over zealous use of a firearm. Period.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    You really have to ask that, she is a black racist and terminally stupid.
    Now you are making racist statements, like any racist scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    Who said anything about anonymous? The news organization is the one that doesn't know who called. Just about every red flag law I've read requires immediate family or coworkers of a certain amount of time to be actionable.

    Leave it to you to make shit up.
    This law just claimed a life. How is that safer?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    They'll get caught sooner or later anyway.......
    When? After they murder someone else? After they rob someone else? After they beat someone up?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Now you are making racist statements, like any racist scum.
    Now you are making bullshit up as usual. You really need to see a mental health expert. Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    When? After they murder someone else? After they rob someone else? After they beat someone up?
    Again, read my quote! You'd just prefer shooting someone in the back for J walking and running away?
    Hell, I ran from the cops when I was underage when they raided our beer parties. Should they have shot
    me in the back? You just don't shoot someone in the back for petty crimes just because they ran!
    Anyone with a firearm should use common sense before firing it. I taught firearms courses for over 20
    years, so I do know a bit about firearms uses and safety, as well as observing the surroundings if you miss.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Again, read my quote! You'd just prefer shooting someone in the back for J walking and running away?
    Strawman; now you are lying like a leftist. Where did I say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Hell, I ran from the cops when I was underage when they raided our beer parties. Should they have shot me in the back?
    Why did you run? Did you do something wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You just don't shoot someone in the back for petty crimes just because they ran!
    Where did I say that we should shoot people in the back for petty crimes? More strawmen. I swear I must be arguing with a leftist.

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Anyone with a firearm should use common sense before firing it.
    So if someone is coming at an officer who has commanded they halt, and they continue coming at them, the officer should first determine if they have committed a petty crime and not fire until the perp attacks them?

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I taught firearms courses for over 20 years,
    So fucking what? Your argument is lame and filled with strawmen.

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    so I do know a bit about firearms uses and safety, as well as observing the surroundings if you miss.
    What does this have to do with the actual situation police find themselves in when confronting criminals?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Strawman; now you are lying like a leftist. Where did I say this?



    Why did you run? Did you do something wrong?



    Where did I say that we should shoot people in the back for petty crimes? More strawmen. I swear I must be arguing with a leftist.



    So if someone is coming at an officer who has commanded they halt, and they continue coming at them, the officer should first determine if they have committed a petty crime and not fire until the perp attacks them?



    So fucking what? Your argument is lame and filled with strawmen.



    What does this have to do with the actual situation police find themselves in when confronting criminals?
    If you're so damned adamant about shooting someone in the back for doing stupid shit, I suggest you reassess your own understanding of the use of a firearm in a given situation.
    Yeah, I was a firearms instructor, and yes, armed civilians could find themselves in those same situations, but I would never tell them to just shoot someone in the back because
    they're running away unless they pose a threat to other people. That is simple common sense. End of discussion, because it looks like I'm arguing with a leftist, an incompetent one.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    If you're so damned adamant about shooting someone in the back for doing stupid shit, I suggest you reassess your own understanding of the use of a firearm in a given situation.
    Another strawman; where did I say they should be shot for doing stupid shit?

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Yeah, I was a firearms instructor, and yes, armed civilians could find themselves in those same situations, but I would never tell them to just shoot someone in the back because
    they're running away unless they pose a threat to other people. That is simple common sense. End of discussion, because it looks like I'm arguing with a leftist, an incompetent one.
    Another strawman; We're not talking about civilians. We're talking about policemen confronting people who are committing crimes.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Another strawman; where did I say they should be shot for doing stupid shit?



    Another strawman; We're not talking about civilians. We're talking about policemen confronting people who are committing crimes.
    Aren't you suggesting it's OK for a cop to shoot someone in the back for running away? I merely pointed out the situation I thought it should be considered.

    Did you see where the woman cop shot the drunken guy's mother (who is still in the hospital from a month ago) because she missed him when she was attacked trying to serve a warrant?
    That was self defense, but she didn't hit her target who was only feet away from her, if that, and hit an innocent bystander. That is also one of the points I'm trying to make. Fortunately,
    the woman cop only suffered a concussion and backup came and restrained the drunk, but she never hit who she was shooting at and hit the guy's mother, an innocent bystander.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Aren't you suggesting it's OK for a cop to shoot someone in the back for running away?
    No. I am saying that if you are caught in a crime, and you ignore commands to put your hands up and lay down, and instead, you move towards the cop in a threatening manner, or RUN away; you just might get shot.

    It's pretty basic. This video will review the rules of engagement for those too stupid to comprehend the obvious:

    Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    No. I am saying that if you are caught in a crime, and you ignore commands to put your hands up and lay down, and instead, you move towards the cop in a threatening manner, or RUN away; you just might get shot.

    It's pretty basic. This video will review the rules of engagement for those too stupid to comprehend the obvious:

    Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!
    I know "the rules of engagement." I taught them. Backshooting is NOT one of them unless the perp poses a threat to others. Period.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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