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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is a crooked businessman and he claims that everybody does it. That is what crooks say. Oddly the Repubs think that makes sense. Cohen spelled it out. Trump is guilty of tax evasion, according to Cohen.
    What is the crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The Republicans know it's a weak defense. They just rather let Trump get away with crime than stand up to him.
    What crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    AND TAX FRAUD!

    Never has this country ever had a politician anywhere that refused to show his taxes. That is standard fair! Has been since the invention of income taxes.

    Can you only imagine the Hissy Fits, controversy, and animosity it would cause if a Democrat president or candidate ever refused to show his taxes?
    What tax fraud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what do millennials know about either loan applications or tax returns?........
    They don't. They are making it all up, like usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    What tax fraud?
    We've covered this, but for you....

    Watch this again until you understand how Trump operates!


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    You know, I've been saying for months Trump would move to FLA after his reality 'show'. It wasn't funny or glib. I told friends, just watch. He will come here and I assumed as a RESIDENT. He can hang on to MarALago if all the rest goes into the toilet.

    Caveat. Even that depends on how Mar A Lago is 'structued'. Remember when regular people go bankrupt in FLA their 'home' doesn't have 500 paid for members to 'belong'.

    I'm telling you right now, there is some FIERCE, rapid behind the scenes reorganizing, selling off, consolidating, and even abandoning assets in Trump WORLD, INC. And, if you believe Jr. or the princess are orchestrating it, I have a TOWER in NYC on 5th AVE I'll sell you.

    PS Why do you suppose his residency was changed and announced and became official right AT A YEAR from the 2020 election Florida last week? (I think I read the date was Oct 31)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    I bet if your mommy washed your mouth out with some soap when you were a child- I BET YOU WOULD HAVE GROWN UP TO NOT RUN YOUR FILTHY MOUTH!

    I am also betting that if you were facing me- a little sissy bot like YOU WOULDN'T BE RUNNING FILTHY MOUTH!
    I am betting that you are as big of a whiny little pussy in real life as you are here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Bullshit! It's customary for every politician to show his/her taxes before seeking office- for mayor- for any political office!
    Not a requirement. CONSTITUTION; read it tough internet guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Yet in all these years, the NY State Department of Revenue never accused him of tax fraud? How did they miss it? They have his tax records.

    Know how I know he is innocent? Obamas IRS and Cuomos treasury never accused Trump of tax fraud. Never. Not once. Why do you think that is? Was the democrat run state in NY incompetent?

    BTW the only reason is because he doesn’t have to.
    This is the irony of that moronic leftist talking point. The truth is, they just want to rummage through it to find something to cry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    That is the only argument PMP and the assorted old timers use. It is some form of:

    Posit some specific form of vulnerability for Trump, for example the tax return secrecy
    Counter: But he is president therefore your argument doesn't hold water.
    How is Trump vulnerable politically regarding his tax returns? See above for reasons you look like a partisan hack moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Taxes are kept secret by the IRS. That is why if the house wants to see someone's taxes, they have to make a proper request. Ways and Means has always has always had that power, but still have to follow proper procedures to get them.
    They have to have a legal reason for wanting them. They don't have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    You are speculating.
    You are a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The President is a fraud.
    Because you say so? Fuck off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Trump Tax Records Reveal New Inconsistencies"

    "Donald Trump’s business reported conflicting information about a key metric to New York City property tax officials and a lender who arranged financing for his signature building, Trump Tower in Manhattan, according to tax and loan documents"

    "In the latest case, the occupancy rate of the Trump Tower’s commercial space was listed, over three consecutive years, as 11, 16 and 16 percentage points higher in filings to a lender than in reports to city tax officials, records show."

    "As of December 2011 and June 2012, respectively, Trump’s business told the lender that 99% and 98.7% of the tower’s commercial space was occupied, according to a prospectus for the loan. In tax filings, however, Trump’s business said the building’s occupancy was 83% in January 2012 and the same a year later."

    "Those discrepancies were “versions of fraud,” according to Nancy Wallace, a professor of finance and real estate at the Haas School of Business at the University of California-Berkeley. The penalties for false filings can include fines or criminal charges."

    https://www.propublica.org/article/t...nconsistencies
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4...tencies-report

    Trump has been shaming everyone for years, "proving he is smart," he knows any public disclosure of his tax returns would bury his candidacy and perhaps even land the guy in jail. The bullshit about "being audit" is a deflection, he knows the IRS can not reveal if a person is being audited, and the lemmings eat all up while the right wing media runs cover

    Welcome to Trump's America, if you can get over on anyone else, go for it, regardless of responsibilities, it "makes you smart"
    The real reason...that HE WILL release his taxes in 2020, at a time of his choosing? To hit the corrupt left with another body blow right before the election. You've been played again. The more he pretends to hide something....THE MORE the criminals want the information. He knows his enemy well.

    I enjoyed the Rocky Body with the Trump head....analogy. Its Rocky fighting the Russian.....the Russian hits hard in the beginning but Trump wears the Russian out by absorbing the blows into the 15th round...after 3 years of hitting.....the 15th belongs to Rocky/TRUMP....RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA gets knocked the hell out. Its funny as hell. The final round? The senate impeachment hearing.

    Do you think all these things lining up together at the correct time is just a quinky dink? The left has been herded into taking the impeachment bait.....now they are looking for a way out...about the same time the FISA abuse report hits the shitshow…...who are trying desperately to get 3 things from the courts before Dec. 9 (release of IG report). They demand the courts deliver Trumps IRS records....fail, they demand the courts deliver the Grand Jury information from the Mueller grand jury.....fail, they demand to have the courts MAKE Trump come from behind Executive Privilege....fail. All are ending up in SCOTUS with a 90% chance of Trump victories.

    Let the show continue. Popcorn?

    The revealing thing? When the POTUS takes them to court......instead of calling it THE RULE OF LAW....they call it a rope a dope TRICK. Yeah....that pesky due process thingy is hard to overcome in a Kangaroo court. Look who does not want to engage the courts now.....THE LEFT. Before Trump placed almost 2 hundred new judges on the benches....that's the first thing the left would do....find a radical leftist judge who had some dirt under their rug to threaten them...and bang! Legislation through the fiat of a gavel. Now when you mention going to court its like holding up a mirror to a vampire.

    This is what will be revealed about the Epstein network...….it was run by the Clowns in America (CIA) to black mail many, many powerful people in government and business. This is how the deep state permanent bureaucrats maintained power and wealth. Notice how many TOP ceo executives are retiring lately? They know the gig is up...its time to run.

    You refuse to believe that the left black mail people? Most recent example: Sondland…..when he failed to testify the way the left wanted. Suddenly he's accused of Sexual Misconduct. True or not....it was being held over his head. He most likely did have this dirt under his rug....and the left held it over him in order to mold his testimony. The problem...he had no goods to sell, all he had was hearsay.

    The Clowns in America believe they are actually above the law. Trump is proving them wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    You know, I've been saying for months Trump would move to FLA after his reality 'show'. It wasn't funny or glib. I told friends, just watch. He will come here and I assumed as a RESIDENT. He can hang on to MarALago if all the rest goes into the toilet.

    Caveat. Even that depends on how Mar A Lago is 'structued'. Remember when regular people go bankrupt in FLA their 'home' doesn't have 500 paid for members to 'belong'.

    I'm telling you right now, there is some FIERCE, rapid behind the scenes reorganizing, selling off, consolidating, and even abandoning assets in Trump WORLD, INC. And, if you believe Jr. or the princess are orchestrating it, I have a TOWER in NYC on 5th AVE I'll sell you.

    PS Why do you suppose his residency was changed and announced and became official right AT A YEAR from the 2020 election Florida last week? (I think I read the date was Oct 31)
    We can all be comforted by the fact you have NEVER been right about ANYTHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Trump Tax Records Reveal New Inconsistencies"

    "Donald Trump’s business reported conflicting information about a key metric to New York City property tax officials and a lender who arranged financing for his signature building, Trump Tower in Manhattan, according to tax and loan documents"

    "In the latest case, the occupancy rate of the Trump Tower’s commercial space was listed, over three consecutive years, as 11, 16 and 16 percentage points higher in filings to a lender than in reports to city tax officials, records show."

    "As of December 2011 and June 2012, respectively, Trump’s business told the lender that 99% and 98.7% of the tower’s commercial space was occupied, according to a prospectus for the loan. In tax filings, however, Trump’s business said the building’s occupancy was 83% in January 2012 and the same a year later."

    "Those discrepancies were “versions of fraud,” according to Nancy Wallace, a professor of finance and real estate at the Haas School of Business at the University of California-Berkeley. The penalties for false filings can include fines or criminal charges."

    https://www.propublica.org/article/t...nconsistencies
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4...tencies-report

    Trump has been shaming everyone for years, "proving he is smart," he knows any public disclosure of his tax returns would bury his candidacy and perhaps even land the guy in jail. The bullshit about "being audit" is a deflection, he knows the IRS can not reveal if a person is being audited, and the lemmings eat all up while the right wing media runs cover

    Welcome to Trump's America, if you can get over on anyone else, go for it, regardless of responsibilities, it "makes you smart"
    The only real reason is that he doesn't have to despite how many times you cry and whine like a little bitch.

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