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    Default Great article on Ukraine hoax

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamme...motely-illegal

    Interesting read. It shows how morally bankrupt the left really is

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    So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

    "The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

    "The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery
    They obviously don't really believe these silly arguments. If Obama or Hillary did something like this, they'd be screaming for the death penalty.

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    Trump asks a davor for the new leader who ran on an anti corruption platform to investigate corruption involving the US. Nothingburger with extra nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

    "The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery
    There is nothing illegal about what President Trump did. He asked Ukraine to root out corruption in exchange for foreign aid. Foreign aid should be conditional. That Biden is corrupt and has dirt on him is purely coincidental. That he is running for President shouldn't protect him from being investigated which is what you leftists seem to be saying. How interesting is THAT?

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    The thing that should amaze any thoughtful person is there is nothing to the Ukraine interfered in our election fable. Nothing, nada, and yet republicans and Trumpettes believe and follow. When republicans today mention the imaginary deep state you must wonder if their mental health is so groupthink managed that they'd believe anything. Trump says lies and distortions daily and the red hats follow and cheer. What power resentment and hate have over people when absurdity becomes the normal.
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    ^
    Timeline of Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ^
    Timeline of Ukrainian-Democrat Meddling in 2016 Presidential Election
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/timeli...n_3156376.html

    Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
    https://www.ft.com/content/c98078d0-...1-d87a9fea034f

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
    These are all non-sequiturs. They in no way disprove that Trump attempted bribery of the Ukrainian president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    These are all non-sequiturs. They in no way disprove that Trump attempted bribery of the Ukrainian president.
    When someone is a member of your tribe he can do no wrong. See quote down. While I am not a fan of Bolton he speaks his mind and he tells it like he sees it.

    "We now know that John Bolton would testify that Trump told him directly that he was soliciting a bribe from Ukraine."

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...bout-ukrainian


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    When someone is a member of your tribe he can do no wrong. See quote down. While I am not a fan of Bolton he speaks his mind and he tells it like he sees it.

    "We now know that John Bolton would testify that Trump told him directly that he was soliciting a bribe from Ukraine."

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...bout-ukrainian


    "Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing." Robert M. Sapolsky http://nautil.us/issue/49/the-absurd...s-other-people
    And yet Republicans weren't this crazy when Bush was in office. They admitted when he was doing something wrong. Same goes for Democrats and Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    They obviously don't really believe these silly arguments. If Obama or Hillary did something like this, they'd be screaming for the death penalty.
    Hillary did

    Paid a law firm who paid a company who paid a foreign national to dig up dirt from Russia on Donald Trump

    Oh yeah to you it is just oppo research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Hillary did

    Paid a law firm who paid a company who paid a foreign national to dig up dirt from Russia on Donald Trump

    Oh yeah to you it is just oppo research
    No, but let's pretend that's what happened. How come it's only ok when a Republican does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    So then asking a nation to publicize dirt on your American presidential opponent in return for military equipment doesn't constitute a bribe. How interesting is that. Seems apologists for Trump will make up anything at all to condone the actions of a member of their tribe. Thankfully honest, thoughtful people see through this nonsense. Check out a real law site and not an apologist below.

    "The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery"

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery
    Or in real terms, outting corruption involving the sitting vice president at the time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    No, but let's pretend that's what happened. How come it's only ok when a Republican does it?
    It is exactly what happened and you had no problem with Hillary doing it. So ask yourself the same question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    It is exactly what happened and you had no problem with Hillary doing it. So ask yourself the same question.
    Because Hillary didn't do it. But alright, let's pretend she did the exact same thing. Is it ok that Hillary did it, since it's ok that Trump did it?

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