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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Obama and other leading Democrats are calling on Democrats to not only donate but donate until you feel it in your pocketbook. Forget taking money out of politics, step up your donor game.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...h-14861315.php
    If the racist white man were to stop donations of any kind............so would President Obama and the dems.........it's not a two way street.

    Why would they stop if you racist fucks won't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    If the racist white man were to stop donations of any kind............so would President Obama and the dems.........it's not a two way street.

    Why would they stop if you racist fucks won't?

    Makeup some more BULLSHIT.




    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post

    Makeup some more BULLSHIT.




    You call it BS all you want.........but it's a fact......if racist white men took money out of politics........the dems would follow.

    As it stands......they can't win without throwing their money and power around, it why they wont take money out of politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    You call it BS all you want.........but it's a fact......if racist white men took money out of politics........the dems would follow.

    As it stands......they can't win without throwing their money and power around, it why they wont take money out of politics.

    HORSE SHIT. What "RACE" was Hillary spending TWICE AS MUCH as Trump on? Your claim is ASININE, when we see who is ACTUALLY "THROWING THEIR MONEY AROUND"...and it is THE DEMOCRATS...BIGTIME.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    But laws most certainly can address violations to our Constitution. Nowhere in our Constitution is it written that money will rule.
    Whether money "rules" is a different issue than citizens being able to express their views by supporting candidates, parties, and groups with campaign contributions. Those do not involve any violations to our Constitution.

    If money ruled Bloomberg and Steyer would be far in the lead for the Democratic nomination.

    Can any amount of money spent by any candidate or cause deter you from voting Democratic in 2020? If not, money does not seem to rule you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Is there? I have not heard of any and if we don't address this, we are not living in a truly democratic society and votes of the average American become more and more worthless. There are Democratic representatives who support this but why no Republicans?
    And just how would you do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Anybody who is willing to spend their own money to get elected is probably not a greedy cheapskate who only wants to spend other people's money.
    Whether they are spending their own or that of others, money does not seem to be buying much support in their cases. The adage that money buys votes has been disproven in many studies (and certainly by self-financed campaigns), but Americans like to think the rich and powerful rule the nation because we have been told that since youth and it provides good old populist campaign rhetoric. It also gives us excuses for anything not working as we think it should or it explains why others are poor.

    That is why campaign finance laws aren't effective--they seek to cure problems that don't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Incumbents already have an inherent advantage through name recognition, but challengers have an advantage in calling out the poor record of incumbents and calling for change.
    Very true, but challengers need money go acquire similar name recognition and to get out the message about the incumbent's poor record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Meanwhile, the Dims have TWO multiBILLIONaires jumping into the race. Maybe you should clean up your own house before pointing your crooked little finger at others. What are Dims doing to remedy this? I mean, you know, besides nothing.
    Shut up, countryboy: they are funding their own campaigns. Corporation money to bought candidates (the heart and soul of the GOP) is killing America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trump is a singularity of all time lying. For you to make a false equivalency means you need to rinse your pussy out
    and go grab another sailor, you lying whore for Trump.
    I bet you wonder why no one in this country takes Democrats even remotely seriously anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    Then you should support the Anti-corruption Act, just as many other Republicans who already do.
    It doesnt remove money. When I say remove money I mean ALL of it.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    With less than 1% of the population benefiting from their policies, getting stupid people to vote directly against their own best interests is an existential necessity for the Republican Party. That costs money, and it goes without saying that they'll take it from anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    With less than 1% of the population benefiting from their policies, getting stupid people to vote directly against their own best interests is an existential necessity for the Republican Party. That costs money, and it goes without saying that they'll take it from anybody.
    I'm going to go on the assumption that no one on this board is in the top 1%. So with that what policies are in the best economic interest of the board's posters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'm going to go on the assumption that no one on this board is in the top 1%. So with that what policies are in the best economic interest of the board's posters?
    Universal healthcare, progressive labor laws, better education, a just peace, a clean environment, a more regulated private sector, a more comprehensive public sector, and just about everything Bernie and Liz are talking about...would be in the best interest of all of us on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    If the racist white man were to stop donations of any kind............so would President Obama and the dems.........it's not a two way street. Why would they stop if you racist fucks won't?
    If President Obama wanted to limit money in politics he wouldn't have been the first candidate in history to refuse federal funding for the general election.

    McCain took federal funding and was limited to the $84 million total spending including state limits and could raise no outside funds. Obama refused federal funding and raised over $300 million for the general election alone ($750 million total).

    So, he didn't do it because the Republicans were going to spend more but because Obama knew he could raise more than the Republicans.

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Whether money "rules" is a different issue than citizens being able to express their views by supporting candidates, parties, and groups with campaign contributions. Those do not involve any violations to our Constitution.

    If money ruled Bloomberg and Steyer would be far in the lead for the Democratic nomination.

    Can any amount of money spent by any candidate or cause deter you from voting Democratic in 2020? If not, money does not seem to rule you.
    This is not about me.

    If money has no effect on votes then why does the USA spend 70 times the amount spent on the typical European election per campaign?
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