Most now oppose impeachment as Trump approval turns positive, 48% to 47%

[Darth Omar]

pure fantasy -even for you.
This was the end of the Schiff show. The Senate will operate on Federal rules of evidence, and call witnesses that back up Ukraine did meddle in 2016, and Trump was doing due dilligence in looking for Ukraine to get an investigation going -which they just did into Burisma

At this point, there’s an argument to be made for Republicans *wanting* Democrats to impeach Trump just so they can have the trial.

Not to beat a dead horse, but again, I don’t see what Pelosi and the Democrats hope to accomplish by having a vote. It’s actually worse than ‘not accomplishing anything’: a Senate trial can, and very likely would, expose things about Ukraine that Democrats don’t want voters to know.

Even if it just stopped with Ukraine meddling in favor of Hillary in 2016—that does damage to the narrative that it was only Russia that meddled. And since Russia meddled in favor of Trump, therefore, Trump is an illegitimate president. That narrative is EXACTLY why democrats and the media are doing their best to tamp-down the Ukraine meddling.

Democrats only owe it to themselves for that story finally reaching voter’s ears: had they not tried to impeach Trump, again, that story would have stayed under the radar.

And Democrats would be *lucky* if that’s the only unfortunate revelation that comes out if they send articles to the senate. After two terms of Obama foreign policy the Democrats footprints are apt to be all over corrupt little Ukraine.

[countryboy]

Jerkwad brought it upon himself. He always has been a crook, liar and racketeering grifter, but he was way too dumb to bring his one trick pony act to the international arena. He squandered the opportunity to change his routine but maybe he had no choice as per Putin. So take your polls and place them where the sun don't shine because Trump's fate is sealed...even more so than his school records or tax returns.

Owl, haven't you heard?

[cancel2 2022]

democrats are so fucking stupid. They have TDS. This was obvious from the begining, and once again their plans have fallen apart. You can't stump the trump. maga 2020

Hard to pick out the poster with the most severe case of TDS. Certainly Joan of Snark, Jarhead, Loony Central, Reagan's Arsewipe, Sinner Bitch, Mr. Meoff, McSquawker and Guano would all be in contention.

[cancel2 2022]

Jerkwad brought it upon himself. He always has been a crook, liar and racketeering grifter, but he was way too dumb to bring his one trick pony act to the international arena. He squandered the opportunity to change his routine but maybe he had no choice as per Putin. So take your polls and place them where the sun don't shine because Trump's fate is sealed...even more so than his school records or tax returns.

Saved!!

[cancel2 2022]

Owl, haven't you heard?

So do you think Cinnabar is just an Owl sock as well?

[dukkha]

At this point, there’s an argument to be made for Republicans *wanting* Democrats to impeach Trump just so they can have the trial.

Not to beat a dead horse, but again, I don’t see what Pelosi and the Democrats hope to accomplish by having a vote. It’s actually worse than ‘not accomplishing anything’: a Senate trial can, and very likely would, expose things about Ukraine that Democrats don’t want voters to know.

Even if it just stopped with Ukraine meddling in favor of Hillary in 2016—that does damage to the narrative that it was only Russia that meddled. And since Russia meddled in favor of Trump, therefore, Trump is an illegitimate president. That narrative is EXACTLY why democrats and the media are doing their best to tamp-down the Ukraine meddling.

Democrats only owe it to themselves for that story finally reaching voter’s ears: had they not tried to impeach Trump, again, that story would have stayed under the radar.

And Democrats would be *lucky* if that’s the only unfortunate revelation that comes out if they send articles to the senate. After two terms of Obama foreign policy the Democrats footprints are apt to be all over corrupt little Ukraine.

its a run away train, they cant stop it if they wanted to,,yes indeed Ukraine has lots of corrupt stories to tell

[countryboy]

So do you think Cinnabar is just an Owl sock as well?

Well, I got that from you, and have just rolled with it. I did ask if you have any actual evidence, but you never did answer me. It seems very plausible.

[Earl]

Yes, the needle isn't moving...except with independents... a ten (10) point swing against impeachment.

Poll: Opposition by independents to impeachment inquiry jumps 10 points
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...points-in-last

[Earl]

Hunter Biden will be called if there is a trial in the Senate...and his crooked dad.

[countryboy]

Hard to pick out the poster with the most severe case of TDS. Certainly Joan of Snark, Jarhead, Loony Central, Reagan's Arsewipe, Sinner Bitch, Mr. Meoff, McSquawker and Guano would all be in contention.

It's entirely possible that's just one person. Around here you just never know.

[PoliTalker]

Hello dukkha,

^ all the polling is trending the same way -this is no outlier

False. It is totally an outlier.

Emerson is the ONLY polling that shows a slight advantage in favor of Trump.

All of the rest of the polling services in Real Clear Politics charts show favorable numbers for impeachment and disapproval of Trump.

President Trump Job Approval:

Poll.......................Date...........Sample.. .......Approve...Disapprove...Spread
RCP Average...........11/1 - 11/20....--...............44.3...........52.9........-8.6
Emerson................11/17 - 11/20...1092 RV.......48............47...........+1
Rasmussen.............11/18 - 11/20..1500 LV........46............53...........-7
Reuters/Ipsos.........11/18 - 11/19...960 RV.........41............56..........-15
Economist/YouGov...11/17 - 11/19...1224 RV.......44............54..........-10
Politico..................11/15 - 11/17...1994 RV.......41............55..........-14
NPR/PBS/Marist.......11/11 - 11/15...988 RV.........44............51..........-7
The Hill/HarrisX........11/8 - 11/9.....1204 RV........47............53..........-6
Gallup....................11/1 - 11/14....1015 A.........43............54..........-11

And notice the sample of the Emerson poll is RV. (Registered Voters.) LV (Likely Voters) is more accurate. Who cares what people who don't vote think? They don't vote.

"When asked which statement best reflected their view of the president's conduct after the first round of open testimony, 70% said "Trump's actions were wrong." Fifty-one percent said his acts were wrong and deserved impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate."

70%

The polling which favors Trump can easily be explained by asking respondents if they watched the impeachment hearings. I would expect to hear that they have not.

If respondents are getting their information from Trump-favorable websites or Fox, which only parrots the NOT-UNDER-OATH statements from Republicans, it is understandable why they are misinformed. Propaganda works. That's why Republicans use it.

[Earl]

Hello dukkha,



False. It is totally an outlier.

Emerson is the ONLY polling that shows a slight advantage in favor of Trump.

All of the rest of the polling services in Real Clear Politics charts show favorable numbers for impeachment and disapproval of Trump.

"When asked which statement best reflected their view of the president's conduct after the first round of open testimony, 70% said "Trump's actions were wrong." Fifty-one percent said his acts were wrong and deserved impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate."

70%

The polling which favors Trump can easily be explained by asking respondents if they watched the impeachment hearings. I would expect to hear that they have not.

If respondents are getting their information from Trump-favorable websites or Fox, which only parrots the NOT-UNDER-OATH statements from Republicans, it is understandable why they are misinformed. Propaganda works. That's why Republicans use it.

Yes, the needle isn't moving...except with independents... a ten (10) point swing against impeachment.

Poll: Opposition by independents (nearly 40% of the electorate) to impeachment inquiry jumps 10 points
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...points-in-last

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